Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-11-08 Thread Aaron Katz
> FD is monitored by every major LEA in the world. Posting here is a > good way to notify all of them at once. So, by your argument, I should send every spam, the first time I see it, to full-disclosure. I'm sure that will be particularly useful. > > Please drop this now. Posting the fulltext

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-11-08 Thread Bob Bruen
Hi James. Spam may be part of our lives, but to roll over and accept it is not really the best approach. Fight back. -- bob On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, James Matthews wrote: > Spam is a part of our lives > > On Nov 8, 2007 1:34 PM, lsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 4. Analysis of

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-11-08 Thread James Matthews
Spam is a part of our lives On Nov 8, 2007 1:34 PM, lsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 4. Analysis of spam for the benefit of the group. > > > > You have made a logical leap that I do not follow. How does it > > benefit the group? > > Some people have issues reading the signs, particularly the

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-11-08 Thread lsi
> > 4. Analysis of spam for the benefit of the group. > > You have made a logical leap that I do not follow. How does it > benefit the group? Some people have issues reading the signs, particularly the Received: lines. I only did this after you requested additional analysis, however. > > 6.

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-11-02 Thread lsi
> > Actually, it would hurt my wallet, and waste my time, compounding the > > loss > > already incurred by receiving the spam in the first place. > > But it's worth your time to forward spam to everyone on the Simply put, it's evidence of a crime. The mail was forwarded in its entirety to provid

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-11-02 Thread Aaron Katz
On 11/2/07, lsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually, it would hurt my wallet, and waste my time, compounding the > > > loss > > > already incurred by receiving the spam in the first place. > > > > But it's worth your time to forward spam to everyone on the > > Simply put, it's evidence of a c

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-31 Thread Aaron Katz
> Actually, it would hurt my wallet, and waste my time, compounding the > loss > already incurred by receiving the spam in the first place. But it's worth your time to forward spam to everyone on the full-disclosure mailing list. > > Also, if you really believed that it might come from his campai

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-31 Thread lsi
t certainly newsworthy if so. All of these unlikelies got me > > curious... > > > > Stu > > > > On 28 Oct 2007 at 12:04, Aaron Katz wrote: > > > > Date sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:04:13 -0400 > > From: "Aaron Katz" <[EMAIL P

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-30 Thread jam
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 03:00:25AM -, lsi wrote: > I didn't do much in the way of research, cos this is surely spam, and > we know spammers forge as much as possible. [..snipped insiteful analysis..] I would add that I doubt very much a politician would send out a newsletter with such lousy

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-30 Thread lsi
ECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race Copies to: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk > Could you provide a little more information/investigation (I'm too > lazy, at this ver

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-30 Thread Aaron Katz
Stu > > On 28 Oct 2007 at 12:04, Aaron Katz wrote: > > Date sent: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:04:13 -0400 > From: "Aaron Katz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Re: [Full-disclosure] sp

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-30 Thread Dude VanWinkle
On 10/29/07, Leif Ericksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either way they are doing it to advance their own agenda. > > bottom line that is what their lack of action is all about. Their own > agenda. I think his "agenda" was to make the guys who support the war actually go on record as supporting t

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-30 Thread John C. A. Bambenek, CISSP
Is this a political science list or an information security list? ;) I mean, I'm all for a debate about the inherent war powers of the President, or the War Powers Act in specific, but I'm not sure that's really the point here. ;) On 10/29/07, Leif Ericksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Either w

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-29 Thread Leif Ericksen
Either way they are doing it to advance their own agenda. bottom line that is what their lack of action is all about. Their own agenda. -- Leif Ericksen On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:35:04 CDT, Leif Ericksen said: > > > Yes the president c

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:35:04 CDT, Leif Ericksen said: > Yes the president can send the troops to war. > Congress is needed to declare war (the president can not do it) > See the following: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States > > After World War II, Congress volu

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-28 Thread Leif Ericksen
Another thing that is laughable is this person Ron Paul is said to once elected stop the war in Iraq. OK just how does ONE (1) person plan do do that? I love the fact that people want to blame Mr President for the war in Iraq. But that is not my understanding of U.S. Government operations. Yes

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-28 Thread reepex
A vote for ron paul is a vote for al qaeda On 10/28/07, lsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Well, it could be worse. Spam that wants to end the Iraq war, > great! - Stu] > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Received: from 195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn > (195.247.52.59.broad.nc.

Re: [Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-28 Thread Aaron Katz
Could you provide a little more information/investigation (I'm too lazy, at this very moment, to do the background investigation that you should have provided, like who derk gaston is)? According to the headers, this looks like it might be forged (not just the little "may be forged" notice, but th

[Full-disclosure] spammer wades into US Presidential race

2007-10-28 Thread lsi
[Well, it could be worse. Spam that wants to end the Iraq war, great! - Stu] Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from 195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn (195.247.52.59.broad.nc.jx.dynamic.163data.com.cn [59.52.247.195] (may be forged))