Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-22 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005, Nick FitzGerald wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Ron DuFresne: > > > > Perhaps it does realte considering the above and considering that the unix > > > world learned many of the evils of RCP services over ten years ago that > > > seem to hit the M$ realm every few months, repeate

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-19 Thread Barrie Dempster
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 14:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What would it take to write an RPC filter to only accept RPCs which we > actually care about? Not a lot, considering this already exists, MS's own product ISA does this. -- With Regards.. Barrie Dempster (zeedo) - Fortiter et Strenue

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I agree that not all exploits need to or should be handled in such a way, but this type of open-ended exploit where potentially anything could have been dropped or altered on a system would force me as an network/security/systems administrator to have to take appropriate action to protect my employ

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-19 Thread Steve Kudlak
Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: Absolutely. Once a system has been exploited in such a manner, it is completely untrustable. It should most definitely be wiped. The IT ppl in SDC (and many other places) need to all be lined up and smacked Three Stooges style. On 8/19/05, Donald J. Ankney <[EM

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-19 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Absolutely. Once a system has been exploited in such a manner, it is completely untrustable. It should most definitely be wiped. The IT ppl in SDC (and many other places) need to all be lined up and smacked Three Stooges style. On 8/19/05, Donald J. Ankney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any IT

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-19 Thread Donald J. Ankney
'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? "So patch your systems, but don't miss your kid's play in order to do it. We've seen a lot worse than this in the past." Brilliant advise[sic]! Yeah, c

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-19 Thread Technica Forensis
On 8/17/05, Jason Coombs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about attacks that took place with the worms as cover? How many high- > value systems just got compromised, and will remain so, by something other > than the worms' code -- where the victim won't even bother to investigate > that > possi

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-19 Thread James Tucker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ron DuFresne wrote: Perhaps it does realte considering the above and considering that the unix world learned many of the evils of RCP services over ten years ago that seem to hit the M$ realm every few months, repeatedly... We used to call the

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-18 Thread Nick FitzGerald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to Ron DuFresne: > > Perhaps it does realte considering the above and considering that the unix > > world learned many of the evils of RCP services over ten years ago that > > seem to hit the M$ realm every few months, repeatedly... > > We used to call them rsploits when it was

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-18 Thread fd
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ron DuFresne wrote: > > Perhaps it does realte considering the above and considering that the unix > world learned many of the evils of RCP services over ten years ago that > seem to hit the M$ realm every few months, repeatedly... > We used to call them rsploits when it was

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread imipak
Larry Seltzer wrote: > none of the current attacks will directly infect Windows XP systems, > including consumer systems, and therefore will not linger there. To > illustrate the point, it's a long time now since the RPC/DCOM bug > was patched and still there are lots of infected systems out there

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread fd
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, pingywon wrote: > Disney world CLOSED ! > > > ..it cant be ..blame it on the terrorists and save face Mickey It must be 'cause of the hand-geometry biometric scanners they are using... someone must not have liked giving up their metrics ;) -- Eric Wheeler Vice President

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > >From my perspective, developing a patch and applying a patch are two > different life cycles. I'm no developer, but I know what it takes to > properly test and roll-out patches within my (current and previous) > organization(s). > > I don't prete

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Ron DuFresne
[SNIP] > > Greg Smith, the county's assessor, recorder and clerk, said "As long > as we're up (today), we'll be fine" Greg Smith is a thinking much too > lightly of the situation. Their systems just got hit with an exploit > that allows for remote code execution and elevation of privile

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
>From my perspective, developing a patch and applying a patch are two different life cycles. I'm no developer, but I know what it takes to properly test and roll-out patches within my (current and previous) organization(s). I don't pretend to believe that all patches are the same, but this PnP pa

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Jason Coombs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:20:17 To:"'Micheal Espinola Jr'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? >>"So patch your systems, but don't miss your kid's play in order to do it. We've seen

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Jan Nielsen
: http://www.boyakasha.dk/virusevents.log Regards Jan -Original Message- From: Jan Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. august 2005 17:36 To: 'full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk' Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? I was at a customer today with this problem, initi

RE: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Geo.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr >>Regardless of "a LOT of Windows 2000 out there...", these companies weren't bitten the same day the initial exploit was released. 6 days is plenty of time to have tested compatibility and

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Peter Besenbruch
Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: I'll tell you why -- [snip] So there you have it -- there's still a LOT of Windows 2000 out there... Having said that, you also have to realize that from the time the MS05-039 vulnerability was disclose (and the exploit code was released the same day), to the

Re: It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
This issue effects XP and W2K3 systems as well. I don't see the argument of W2K being "on the back burner" as having any relation to this thread. Regardless of "a LOT of Windows 2000 out there...", these companies weren't bitten the same day the initial exploit was released. 6 days is plenty of

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Mike Sawicki
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 11:07:26AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_RBOT.CBQ > > Symantec: Win32.Zotob.E > > McAfee: exploit-dcomrpc > > Kaspersky: Net-Worm.Win32.Small.d

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread fd
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_RBOT.CBQ > Symantec: Win32.Zotob.E > McAfee: exploit-dcomrpc > Kaspersky: Net-Worm.Win32.Small.d The IRC server this worm uses is 72.20.27.115, #tbp -- does anyone know what port?

It's not that simple... [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?]

2005-08-17 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
It's not that simple. Why such success with a worm targeted at specific vulnerabilities in Win2k? I'll tell you why -- the answer is spelled out (correctly) in an article written by Ina Fried in a June 28th, 2005, C|Net News article entitled "Windows 2000 moves to the back burner", which discusse

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Larry Seltzer
>>you do realize that you are writing for the "Enterprise News & Reviews" magazine, eWeek - right? Yeah. Online we get a little leeway on such things, and anyway it's beside the point of that statement, which was that none of the current attacks will directly infect Windows XP systems, including

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Thanks for correcting my spelling error. You mention that this issue "will have little or no presence on consumer systems", but you do realize that you are writing for the "Enterprise News & Reviews" magazine, eWeek - right? You also realize that MS05-039 effects the current "consumer" version of

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread DudeVanWinkle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 While the viri will be found and removed, the passwords might remain (especially in a domain). hmm good _bad_ thinking - -Dude -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozde

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Jan Nielsen
Sent: 17. august 2005 17:41 To: Jan Nielsen Cc: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? I joined said IRC channel, and the topic is ".ntscan 100 120 -a -b" so it appears to be joining the channel and getting paramaters for this "ntscan progra

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Michael Young
Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? I was at a customer today with this problem, initially their network was acting up and some ppl, couldn't logon to the servers in the morning. We found the file "kilo.exe" on some machines that apparently had not been patched, one thing

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
See: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/#0631 It could be any one of 11 variants at this point... - ferg -- "Jan Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was at a customer today with this problem, initially their network was acting up and some ppl, couldn't logon to the servers in the morning.

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread John Smith
TECTED] Sent: 17. august 2005 00:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? MD5SUM 7a67f7a8c844820c1bae3ebf720c1cd9 (wintbp.exe) Trend Micro: WORM_RBOT.CBQ - http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_RBO T.CBQ

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Jan Nielsen
ld be ? Regards Jan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. august 2005 00:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? MD5SUM 7a67f7a8c844820c1bae3ebf720c1cd9 (wintbp.exe) Trend Micro:

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Larry Seltzer
>>I also think it's fair to say that when it dies down, relatively soon, it won't achieve the endemic status of Blaster and Sasser because it will have little or no presence on consumer systems. Actually, I take that back a bit; I'm sure the Windows XP-based worms and bots will adopt MS05-039 as

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Larry Seltzer
>>"So patch your systems, but don't miss your kid's play in order to do it. We've seen a lot worse than this in the past." >>Brilliant advise[sic]! Yeah, clearly I timed the column badly, but I still think there's more smoke than fire on this outbreak. If it had been International Paper or some co

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread xyberpix
hanks, ~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? MD5SUM 7a67f7a8c844820c1bae3ebf720

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
"So patch your systems, but don't miss your kid's play in order to do it. We've seen a lot worse than this in the past." Brilliant advise! On 8/17/05, Peter Besenbruch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Stein wrote: > > check cnn.com now. according to them, a new win2000 virus out now in > > the

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-17 Thread Peter Besenbruch
Frank Stein wrote: check cnn.com now. according to them, a new win2000 virus out now in the wild and infecting at a rapid rate. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/08/16/computer.worm/index.html maybe this is the one. Check out this article by Larry Seltzer of eWeek, where he predicts earl

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Morning Wood
>check cnn.com now. according to them, a new win2000 virus out now in >the wild and infecting at a rapid rate. this is soo last week ( gah! ) ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.ht

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Frank Stein
check cnn.com now. according to them, a new win2000 virus out now in the wild and infecting at a rapid rate. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/08/16/computer.worm/index.html maybe this is the one. On 8/16/05, David Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A buddy of mine who's fiance works for Dis

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Morning Wood
Has anyone noticed this all took place on Monday? 3 full days after the worm was released. Seems to me that theseCorps's were infected on Monday from ( proable ) users connecting to internal networks via laptop's brought in from home, after being connected to their home connections and their laptop

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread pingywon
Disney world CLOSED ! .it cant be ..blame it on the terrorists and save face Mickey - Original Message - From: "David Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:13 PM Subject: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? A buddy of mine who's fiance works for Disney just to

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Poof
rg.uk Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down? MD5SUM 7a67f7a8c844820c1bae3ebf720c1cd9 (wintbp.exe) Trend Micro: WORM_RBOT.CBQ - http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_RBO T.CBQ Symantec: Win32.Zotob.E McAfee: exploit-dcomrpc Kaspersky: Net-Worm.Win32.Small.d Th

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread sk3tch
MD5SUM 7a67f7a8c844820c1bae3ebf720c1cd9 (wintbp.exe) Trend Micro: WORM_RBOT.CBQ - http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_RBO T.CBQ Symantec: Win32.Zotob.E McAfee: exploit-dcomrpc Kaspersky: Net-Worm.Win32.Small.d This is what is on CNN right now. -Original Messa

RE: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Andre Protas
They're still open for business; at least DisneyLand is until midnight. Signed, Andre Derek Protas Security Researcher eEye Digital Security aprotas eeye com ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-cha

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Dave @ Allnix, LLC
> A buddy of mine who's fiance works for Disney just told me that they > have sent everyone home for the day. When I say everyone I mean, > Disney Land, Disney World, Disney Corporate, etc... He's not sure > what the virus is called but it's apparently very nasty. Anyone have > any more info on

Re: [Full-disclosure] Disney Down?

2005-08-16 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Perhaps the same problem as CNN, ABC, etc: http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/08/16/computer.worm/index.html - ferg -- David Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A buddy of mine who's fiance works for Disney just told me that they have sent everyone home for the day. When I say everyone I me