J.A. Terranson wrote:
SANS is a for profit corp.,
and was run as such even when
they were playing possum as a
non-profit.
They are *not* a disinterested
third party any more than the
anti-virus firms are - and not
many people would use *them*
as an authoritative reference
To drive this
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 04:49:45AM +, Jason Coombs wrote:
Anyone presumptuous enough to arbitrarily define technical terms without
considerable careful thought and then publish the arbitrary text and call
it a 'dictionary' should be shot.
Might it not be a bit more tolerant of other views
Hey Jason, you really have to make up your mind about whether the old definition is archaic and thus obsolete, or if we should be using the original definition from Homer. You can't keep flopping back and forth like you're running for a major political office.
A trojan is well-understood (by
How many of you are lawyers
back to what seemed to be the original point:
Data on a drive is just data, unless you can prove how it was created. And
generally the data in question can't prove itself, external factors have to be
considered.
--
*
Brian L.
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Jason Coombs wrote:
Chuck Fullerton wrote:
A Trojan horse is a program that appears to have some useful or benign
purpose, but really masks some hidden malicious functionality.
A Backdoor is a program that allows attackers to bypass normal security
controls on a
Jason Coombs to J.A. Terranson:
The simple fact of the matter is that
what matters *IS* the definition,
and you full well know it. What
happened here is you slipped and
fell, and rather than admitting it
you're crying foul - shame on you!
I didn't disagree that the broader
Can we
agree that in the world of computer securitythe Trojan horse is a
malicious program disguised as a legitimate software and let it go at
that?
Thanks
Hummer Marchand, GCIH,CISSP CompTIA Security+
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James Tucker wrote:
Sorry, how many programs which you class as Trojans add what you
define as a backdoor, given that a backdoor is generally
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