Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-21 Thread Ivan .
>: Well done, anyone else who knows of people committing fraud against isc2 >: should report them. Unfortunately I don't think its feasible for isc2 to >: check everybody. >Oh, how coincidental.. What do you suggest? that they check everyone who passes the exam? >Ethics Complaint Procedures [0]

RE: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough

2005-08-19 Thread Geo.
>>I swore an oath never again to apply my skills in a way that helps Microsoft. So that means.. no forensics that show it actually was the user downloading porn instead of the OS being exploited? Geo. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: h

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough

2005-08-19 Thread James Tucker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I respect your right to have an opinion, however I do not respect the fact that your opinion completely sucks ass. I meen seriously man, when has MS really become that bad? TBH as long as the kernel I'm running can reliably schedule processes and allocate memor

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-19 Thread security curmudgeon
: Well done, anyone else who knows of people committing fraud against isc2 : should report them. Unfortunately I don't think its feasible for isc2 to : check everybody. Oh, how coincidental.. : They do random credential checking and I should I know, since I was : audited after I passed the ex

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-18 Thread Ivan .
Hi J.A. Well done, anyone else who knows of people committing fraud against isc2 should report them. Unfortunately I don't think its feasible for isc2 to check everybody. They do random credential checking and I should I know, since I was audited after I passed the exam. The CISSP cert is the b

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-18 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, DAN MORRILL wrote: > Anyone have any statistics they can share on how many people get their CISSP > revoked due to ethical issues? I have first hand personal knowledge of 2 CISSPs who were brought to the attention of ISC2 for (a) forging a college diploma, and (b) participat

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough

2005-08-18 Thread tuytumadre
I respect your right to have an opinion, however I do not respect the fact that your opinion completely sucks ass. I meen seriously man, when has MS really become that bad? So much more people run Windows than who run Linux and you know it's true, and it's never going to change. There is not

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-18 Thread DAN MORRILL
will indicate that the mesasge failed to be delivered. Please resend when you get those, it does not mean that the mail box is bad, merely that MSN mail is over worked at the time. From: Jeremy Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclos

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-18 Thread Jeremy Bishop
On Thursday 18 August 2005 11:31, DAN MORRILL wrote: > community at large. So who's ethics do we apply, if I was to follow > the CISSP code of ethics, in that consorting with non-professionals, > would mean that I could not teach information security in college > (which I do), nor could I teach wh

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-18 Thread TheGesus
Do we get to swear a sacred oath never to use our skills in support of Microsoft? Can we work a secret handshake into that, too? On 8/18/05, DAN MORRILL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good afternoon folks, >... > So what we need is a universal code of ethics that everyone could agree on > (herding

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough

2005-08-18 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, August 18, 2005 17:31:24 + Jason Coombs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I swore an oath never again to apply my skills in a way that helps Microsoft. So..when do you move in with Georgi? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texa

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough - ethics

2005-08-18 Thread DAN MORRILL
l-Disclosure Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:12:57 -0300 On 8/18/05, Jason Coombs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So there ya go. I suppose you'll > > find something new to complain > > about, or to be rude about. > &

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough

2005-08-18 Thread J u a n
On 8/18/05, Jason Coombs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So there ya go. I suppose you'll > > find something new to complain > > about, or to be rude about. > > Whenever possible, yes. > > It's amazing how much you support Microsoft. Don't you know that it is in the > continued support that you g

Re: [Full-disclosure] Re: MS not telling enough

2005-08-18 Thread TheGesus
Whoa, dude. Did that involve a midnight ritual & the sacrifice of a small animal? On 8/18/05, Jason Coombs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I swore an oath never again to apply my skills in a way that helps Microsoft. ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it