[Full-Disclosure] Jesus is crying.

2002-11-22 Thread jesus_crying
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- As I look out across our community, the conglomeration of opposed forces that often collide on mailing lists and IRC, I am sad. Why am I sad? The reason should be obvious to all but the slowest among you: the Black Hat

[Full-Disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA NONE] New security.debian.org server after fire in Twente

2002-11-22 Thread debian-security-announce
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Debian Security Announcement [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze November 22nd, 2002

[Full-Disclosure] MS02-065 vulnerability

2002-11-22 Thread Paul Szabo
Microsoft security bulletin http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms02-065.asp contains the caveat a patched system could be made vulnerable again [by] visit a web site or open an HTML mail. We have a execute-any-code vulnerability, exploitable by a Web page or email; the patch can

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Jesus is crying.

2002-11-22 Thread Gregory Kornblum
A discourse, by itself, means little; any fool on the street can spout his opinion, but it's most likely that nobody will listen to him. The difference with a dominant discourse is that it is supported and heartily endorsed by the dominant class (politicians, corporations etc). Why do they

RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: [PHC] Sermon #2: Security Industry

2002-11-22 Thread Gregory Kornblum
ive worked in the security industry for 5-6 years and its given me financial security, made me independent, allowed me to do the things scriptkidiots like yourselves can only dream of doing. This is exactly what I am talking about. They rant about script kids all the way to the bank with the

Re: [Full-Disclosure] the sides of security(a 0day post)

2002-11-22 Thread el8
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:19:08 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fear PHC, ~el8 and such groups put into companies is actually helping sec.industry. If it was up to them I think there would be hundreds of publicly known groups going wild on systems and proving

[Full-Disclosure] [ESA-20021122-030] local kernel vulnerabilities

2002-11-22 Thread EnGarde Secure Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ++ | EnGarde Secure Linux Security Advisory November 22, 2002 | | http://www.engardelinux.org/ ESA-20021122-030

[Full-Disclosure] [ESA-20021122-031] php upgrade, security fixes

2002-11-22 Thread EnGarde Secure Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ++ | EnGarde Secure Linux Security Advisory November 22, 2002 | | http://www.engardelinux.org/ ESA-20021122-031

[Full-Disclosure] Security contact for SAP database

2002-11-22 Thread KF
Does anyone have a simple email address for contacting SAP http://www.sap.com about security vulnerabilities? -KF ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Internet at 1am EST

2002-11-22 Thread David Vincent
check out the internet pulse website... http://www.internetpulse.net/1/ yesterday (thursday the 21st) the Internap section was completely red. late last night i noticed it had cleared up but as i look at it right now Internap is experiencing problems again. i didn't notice anything like this at

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS02-065 vulnerability

2002-11-22 Thread HggdH
. From: Paul Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] . To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 04:36 . Subject: [Full-Disclosure] MS02-065 vulnerability . . (...) . . Is this what Microsoft calls responsible disclosure? . . (...) Please note they do recognise it, and also

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Please post to the list

2002-11-22 Thread Day Jay
Paul, Blackhats would not keep your network secure. Blackhats will break into your network with no remorse. There will always be Blackhats. Whitehats will not keep your network secure but will charge you a shitload of money anyway. Alot of whitehats breed script kiddies. Blackhats are mad

[Full-Disclosure] script kiddie

2002-11-22 Thread matt merhar
would it be wise to delete all mail that contains any variation of the string script kiddie? this is getting pretty fucking retarded. -matt ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

Re: [Full-Disclosure] script kiddie

2002-11-22 Thread Day Jay
I'll write you a script to do that ok because you seem pretty retarded yourself. Oh yeah, you can unsubscribe. --- matt merhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would it be wise to delete all mail that contains any variation of the string script kiddie? this is getting pretty fucking retarded. -matt

[Full-Disclosure] RE: Please post to the list

2002-11-22 Thread b0iler _
I received one response (so far) to my request to explain how black hats would propose I keep my network secure. I would appreciate it if responses could at least be cc'd to the list so they can be discussed openly. My request still stands. Any takers? I'll take the bait. This is a pretty

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Please post to the list

2002-11-22 Thread Day Jay
So why should I, as a guy who is concerned about the security of my network, care what blackhats have to say? Why should I support anything the blackhats are trying to convince me I should support? You shouldn't listen to anyone except for your inner self. You should find strength in

[Full-Disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA-200-1] Samba buffer overflow

2002-11-22 Thread debian-security-announce
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- - Debian Security Advisory DSA-200-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Wichert Akkerman November 22, 2002 -

[Full-Disclosure] RE: Please post to the list

2002-11-22 Thread Schmehl, Paul L
All of that is axiomatic, however, the so-called blackhats have been posting here, ranting about the security industry and how it it's greedy and leeches off of other people's work. They want the industry to go away, or so they say. Yet the very reason the industry exists is because *they* do.

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Please post to the list

2002-11-22 Thread Schmehl, Paul L
-Original Message- From: Day Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Please post to the list You shouldn't listen to anyone except for your inner self. You should find strength in Jesus. Jesus

Re: [Full-Disclosure] script kiddie

2002-11-22 Thread matt merhar
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 15:29:18 -0600 Schmehl, Paul L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the umpteenth time, this is a full disclosure list. *You* may delete anything you want, with or without first reading it, given your ability to configure your own MUA. So can anyone else who subscribes to this

Re: [Full-Disclosure] [PHC] Sermon #3 (w/ reply to Paul Schmehl others)

2002-11-22 Thread Euan Briggs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 3. Stripey, you speak of the PHC new bloods when you have no knowledge of how long any of us have been online for. Based on how recently you started selling bugs to Snosoft, it's very likely that you're the one who's Only Been Around For A Few

[Full-Disclosure] (no subject)

2002-11-22 Thread nwonknu
The blackhats assert that the security industry is evil, because they don't offer 100% solutions. Look how smart I am! I figured out how to pocket the candy without getting caught! You must be really stupid to even try! What they don't seem to realize is that security can never be 100%.