RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Joe Klein
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is an interesting idea. If the database vulnerability and the patch has been available for over 6 months, wouldn't this be proof of Lack of Due Care by the companies which were impacted? Sounds like a potential class action suite against

Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Nick Jacobsen
No, the Morris worm did not necessarily down entire countries, but if you look at the percentage of the internet (DARPA/ARPA Net) that it downed, I would still say that this worm does not even come close. Nick J. Ethics Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: madsaxon [EMAIL

[Full-Disclosure] format strings vulns in /bin/login and /usr/bin/passwd

2003-01-26 Thread Faulty
Hello while doing a scan for format strings vulns on util-linux package it came back with the following results. ./login.c:398 FUNC fprintf./login.c:425 FUNC fprintf./login.c:597 FUNC fprintf./login.c:614 FUNC fprintf./login.c:775 FUNC printf./login.c:796 FUNC fprintf./login.c:800 FUNC

[Full-Disclosure] Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco Security Advisory: Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Vulnerabilities in Cisco Products - MS02-061

2003-01-26 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 are considered vulnerable. This advisory is available at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030126-ms02-061.shtml. Affected Products = To determine if a product is vulnerable, review the list below. If the software versions or configuration

Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Henrik Lund Kramshøj
On søndag, jan 26, 2003, at 06:52 Europe/Copenhagen, Schmehl, Paul L wrote: Cyberterrorism Getting a bit hyped up, aren't we? It's just another stupid worm. No, I dont think so Why do you consider it terrorism only when people are hurt directly? In Denmark where I live and many other

RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Curt Purdy
One of the things we are overlooking here is that the problem with banking sites is not that transactions are going over the Internet through vpn connections that are not going to be compromised. When was the last time you heard of a credit card being stolen over an ssl connection (or an http

[Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread jmcguire
I find this ATM outage curious. A couple of jobs ago, BofA was a customer of mine using our ATM monitoring software. At that time, 6 years ago to be sure, ATMs were on leased lines or satellite connections to the banks central processing systems. In the ensuing time, have banks began using

Re: [Full-Disclosure] format strings vulns in /bin/login and /usr/bin/passwd

2003-01-26 Thread qobaiashi
On Sunday 26 January 2003 09:13, you wrote: Hello while doing a scan for format strings vulns on util-linux package it came back with the following results. [...] There is also a few other on other programs but i thought these 2 would be most important since passwd is suid and login could be

Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Ka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At Sonntag, 26. Januar 2003 16:47 Blue Boar wrote: But my point is that for it to be cyber-terrorism, the worm author had to intend to change people's behavior through fear. Not neccessarily. Just leading the actual technical, social,

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sapphire worm POC that fulldisclosure policieshurt everyone

2003-01-26 Thread KF
If the ms-sql bug had never been disclosed, and was slipped quietly to Microsoft, this never would have happened, and the same responsible administrators would have upgraded their software. *cough* bulls$#t *cough*... even if this bug was not disclosed to the public there is the same

[Full-Disclosure] Re: New Web Vulnerability - Cross-Site Tracing

2003-01-26 Thread xss-is-lame
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Further claifications, agreements, and disagreements in line. I think it's an important stat because *if* XSS becomes widely exploited, then it could pose a significant threat. My last email explains why I don't think this will happen. And of course you have

[Full-Disclosure] 100 Worms per Second, Courtesy of Telstra

2003-01-26 Thread Karl A. Krueger
Pardon my delurk, but this is very strange worm behavior. We are seeing 100 SQL Worms per second from a single IP address on Telstra. This is about 10k times the level of activity we are seeing from any other address. Anyone here either know anyone at Telstra who can shut this off, or perhaps

Re: [Full-Disclosure] 100 Worms per Second, Courtesy of Telstra

2003-01-26 Thread Matthew Murphy
Pardon my delurk, but this is very strange worm behavior. We are seeing 100 SQL Worms per second from a single IP address on Telstra. This is about 10k times the level of activity we are seeing from any other address. That is certainly odd. Anyone here either know anyone at Telstra who

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Sapphire worm POC that fulldisclosure policies hurt everyone

2003-01-26 Thread Jason Coombs
Hogwash. When your box gets destroyed mysteriously and you call your vendor to ask why, you're going to be happy with the answer you don't need to know, and we're not going to tell you because it's a secret ?? Ridiculous drivel. But thanks for sharing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sapphire worm POC that fulldisclosure policies hurt everyone

2003-01-26 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, [...] The ms-sql vulnerability has been known to the public for six months. [...] If the ms-sql bug had never been disclosed, and was slipped quietly to Microsoft, this never would have happened, and the same responsible administrators would have upgraded their software. No comment.

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Sapphire worm POC that fulldisclosure policies hurt everyone

2003-01-26 Thread Jason Coombs
Wait, it just occurred to me that you're missing a critical technical point in your knowledge of this debate. It's worth a couple paragraphs to help you understand. When a vendor releases compiled code (or source code, and which one is easier to analyze is at times debatable) everyone has a

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Sapphire worm POC that fulldisclosure policies hurt everyone

2003-01-26 Thread yossarian
I hear alot of arguments put out by the naive in favor of fulldisclosure of vulnerability information. But the fact is, fulldisclosure policies hurt everyone, and this time, they have wreaked havoc across the entire internet. The ms-sql vulnerability has been known to the public for six months.

RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCKPORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Schmehl, Paul L wrote: Cyberterrorism Getting a bit hyped up, aren't we? It's just another stupid worm. And blaming admins for not patching there boxes is bull. You ever been to a university? I defy you to even know where all the vulnerable boxes are, much less

Re: [Full-Disclosure] format strings vulns in /bin/login and /usr/bin/passwd

2003-01-26 Thread madsaxon
There is also a few other on other programs but i thought these 2 would be most important since passwd is suid and login could be exploited remotly. I am not very experianced in format strings any help/commets would be great. Would these be able to get exploited? i'm not sure what utility you

Re: [Full-Disclosure] 100 Worms per Second, Courtesy of Telstra

2003-01-26 Thread Karl A. Krueger
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 04:48:30PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: At 01:50 PM 26/01/2003 -0500, Karl A. Krueger wrote: Pardon my delurk, but this is very strange worm behavior. We are seeing 100 SQL Worms per second from a single IP address on Telstra. This is Perhaps a series of servers behind

Re: [Full-Disclosure] 100 Worms per Second, Courtesy of Telstra

2003-01-26 Thread Roland Postle
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:50:40 -0500, Karl A. Krueger wrote: Pardon my delurk, but this is very strange worm behavior. We are seeing 100 SQL Worms per second from a single IP address on Telstra. This is about 10k times the level of activity we are seeing from any other address. Anyone here

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Lock business practices security-by-obscurity for 150 years

2003-01-26 Thread Brian McWilliams
An interesting note by Blaze appeared in RISKS today. He talks about the reaction of locksmiths to the NY Times story and the publication of his research. http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/22.51.html%3E#subj1 Excerpt: The existence of this method, and the reaction of the locksmithing profession

RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCKPORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread hellNbak
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Schmehl, Paul L wrote: This simply shows your ignorance of the issues, Ron. Port 1434 was not a normal port for SQL server *until* MSDE came out. We obviously blocked 1433 long ago, as did almost every edu in the universe. But 1434 was a recent innovation to make SQL

RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!

2003-01-26 Thread Schmehl, Paul L
-Original Message- From: Ron DuFresne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:01 PM To: Schmehl, Paul L Cc: Full-Disclosure; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Smith; Richard M. Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jay D. Dyson; Bugtraq Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS