October 11, Associated Press - U.S. funds chat-room surveillance study.
The
U.S. government is funding a yearlong study on chat room surveillance
under
an anti-terrorism program. A Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute computer
science professor hopes to develop mathematical models that can uncover
str
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:21:38 -0500 (CDT), Ron DuFresne
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>
> October 11, Associated Press - U.S. funds chat-room surveillance study.
> The
> U.S. government is funding a yearlong study on chat room surveillance
> under
> an anti-terrorism program. A Rensselaer Polytechnic
A waste of money. They won't find anything.. people are too smart
to use chatrooms to discuss elite stuff.
Another reason to vote Bush out. :-)
Also seems like a lot of money for something I seem to remember was done
singlehandedly by Steve Gibson when he was trying to track DDoS IRC bots ...
mely large networks
like EfNet.
I don't think Steve van singlehandedly monitor the whole of EfNet.
Allan
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October 11, Associated Press - U.S. funds chat-room surveillance study.
The
U.S. government is funding a yearlong study
Already been done, and then some...
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October 11, Associated Press - U.S. funds
rself if you were an Oper and the ircd wouldn't show you in a
channel.
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Has an
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:04:03 -0700, Alex Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can hack the ircd to allow an invisible join that allows certain
> people to be in a channel, yet not visible. I first saw this back in
> like 1997 or 98, so it's very possible. It just requires a special IRCD
> and
large number of IRCd's will
allow this as the norm.
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You can hack the ircd to all
the first
place.
Unless you go on fed run irc networks (imho I know of none run and
maintained by a government agency)
Regards.
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> What the .gov is thinking of doing now is meant for extremely large
networks
> like EfNet.
> I don't think Steve van singlehandedly monitor the whole of EfNet.
I agree that SG couldn't possibly monitor the whole of efnet, but he
*did* have some automatic analysis going on:
(from grc.com)
"The
Also seems like a lot of money for something I seem to remember was done
singlehandedly by Steve G* when he was trying to track DDoS IRC bots ...
What he did was nothing like what this research proposal is for.
[snip]
> For those that can't read English, what they want to attempt to do is
>
In some mail from Ali Campbell, sie said:
>
> > A waste of money. They won't find anything.. people are too smart
> > to use chatrooms to discuss elite stuff.
> >
> > Another reason to vote Bush out. :-)
>
> Also seems like a lot of money for something I seem to remember was done
> singleha
In some mail from Simon Lorentsen, sie said:
>
> There are some internet relay chat daemons that allow this, but doing a
> simple ping to the channel shows them, like unreal and ultimate, or a simple
> whois if you know the opers will show them in the channel when they are +I
> that you are part o
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