[Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-21 Thread Markus Jansson
Short version: - http://www.markusjansson.net/erecent.html#comments "The laptop computers used by members of parlament and their assistants in here Finland have severe security holes. These laptop computers dont have firewalls, file encryption and wiping tools, automatic update is no

[Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-23 Thread Mustajärvi Olli
Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, for instance http://lists.netsys. com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2004-December/030078.html, that we will bring a charge against him in court. We

[Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-23 Thread Mustajärvi Olli
Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, for instance http://lists.netsys. com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2004-December/030078.html, that we will bring a charge against him in court. We

[Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-23 Thread Mustajärvi Olli
Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, for instance http://lists.netsys. com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2004-December/030078.html, that we will bring a charge against him in court. We

[Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-23 Thread Mustajärvi Olli
Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, for instance http://lists.netsys. com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2004-December/030078.html, that we will bring a charge against him in court. We

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-23 Thread Carlos de Oliveira
> So, here is it, maybe they'll listen now. Or maybe not... Hehe ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-24 Thread Peter Besenbruch
Mustajärvi Olli wrote: Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, for instance http://lists.netsys. com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2004-December/030078.html, that we will bring a charge ag

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-24 Thread Alex V. Lukyanenko
Hello Mustajärvi, Thursday, December 23, 2004, 3:54:00 PM, you wrote: MO> Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of MO> the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, MO> for instance http://lists.netsys. MO> com/pipermail/full-di

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-26 Thread James Tucker
I don't have the time or inclination to teach you myself. Please go and learn some more about dealing with radio frequency attacks on modern networks. Racal and Vodafone developed a network called PAKNET or WIDANET depending when the system was sold and in which country. Either way, the system is

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-27 Thread James Tucker
Very well I give up. Try to purchase one of those units (that is a picture of a butchered Toshiba Satellite Pro). No one can actually sell you one. They appeared first on Chinese sites about 6 years ago and no company would actually supply the units. The Police and security agencies do not use pas

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-27 Thread Markus Jansson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:59:28 -0800 James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I don't have the time or inclination to teach you myself. >Please go and learn some more about dealing with radio >frequency attacks on modern networks. Please learn the basic

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-28 Thread Todd Towles
sys.com > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish > parlament (computers) > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 06:34:24 -0800 James Tucker > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The only charge appropriate for this case

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2004-12-29 Thread James Tucker
The only charge appropriate for this case would be what is informally known as a 'gag order' and will require that you disprove under a court of law all statements made by Mr Jansson. In fact, you will have to prove that Mr Jansson's comments are causing you loss of revenue or damaging the overall

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2005-01-03 Thread Markus Jansson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 06:34:24 -0800 James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The only charge appropriate for this case would be >what is informally known as a 'gag order' and will >require that you disprove under a court of law all >statements made by M

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2005-01-04 Thread Thomas Sutpen
Hi Olli, On 23 Dec 2004 12:43:00 +0200, Mustajärvi Olli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of > the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his lies now so many times, > for instance http://lists.netsys. > com/pipermail/full

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2005-01-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 14:34:24 GMT, James Tucker said: > There are so many 'bits' that you simply could not filter all of them > using standard electronics. The first bad assumption - that you even *need* to filter all the bits. It would be the *very* poor intelligence agency that didn't apply some

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)

2005-01-06 Thread Georgi Guninski
so your company is making the finish lawz and it is gonna sue the guy with his tax money? your email revived my faith in modern democracy. btw, i don't see anything wrong with finish parliament using unpatched windoze - it just helps more people take part in the lawz making - what does your con