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Okay, now that we can all count, does anyone have a clue where in the M$
code this sort of arithmetic base translation occurs? And no, I don't
have nor do I want the Windows source that's been release - I'm
Okay, now that we can all count, does anyone have a clue where in the M$
code this sort of arithmetic base translation occurs? And no, I don't
have nor do I want the Windows source that's been release - I'm just
curious; perhaps others are as well.
G
On or about 2004.04.16 13:47:04 +, Charlie
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:14:56AM -0700, Schmidt, Michael R. wrote:
> I will point out that octal only has digits from 0 to 7, so 092
> cannot be interpreted as octal
Sure. And there's the potential bug. FreeBSD interprest 092 as 92 since
its clearly not octal. MS interprets it as 74. Go figure.
"feature"
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> To: Davide Del Vecchio; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> The leading zero spe
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:42:37 EDT, Aaron Gee-Clough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> C:\>ping 090.090.090.090
>
> Pinging 72.72.72.72 with 32 bytes of data:
Geez... it's hard enough figuring out that 8*9=72, you want it to be smart
enough to notice that octal doesn't have a '9' any more than base 10
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Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] OT microsoft "feature"
Hi list,
I`m sorry for the OT,
Anyone has a good explaination for this ?
Windows XP Professional SP1
C:\>ping 10.10.10.10
Esecuzione
Duh. Of course. Don't know why I didnt think of that. Must be the 8 hours of sleep i've gotten in the last 3 days...
Ban lack of sleep forever!!!Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Davide Del Vecchio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:> It seems like the 0 character implies a modification i
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> To: Davide Del Vecchio; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> The leading zero specifies that the numb
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Am Freitag, 16. April 2004 18:45 schrieb Ross, Jason:
[...]
> F:\>ping 010.060.092.144
> Pinging 010.060.092.144 [10.60.92.144] with 32 bytes of data:
[...]
> Not being overly familiar with octal, there may be a reason for this
> behavior, but it s
Del Vecchio; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] OT microsoft "feature"
>
>
> The leading zero specifies that the number following is
> octal. This is
> expected behavior, and you will find that Solaris, FreeBSD,
> and Solaris all
> act exactl
Jeffrey A.K. Dick wrote:
"Anyone has a good explaination for this ? "
I'll leave it to you to decide if the explanation is good ...
"Windows NT utilities can accept Internet Protocol (IP) addresses comprised
of decimal, octal, or hexadecimal numbers. This can cause confusion if you
unintentional
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Bradford Shedwick wrote:
> Wierd.
> IE. 020 becomes 16; 090 becomes 72.
> Not sure why it does it.
Behold the magical properties of octal system. I suggest reading
documentation for scanf, specifically the %i bit, before expressing your
further disbelief and amazement on th
Wierd.
It does the same thing on Windows 2K as well. When you put a zero in front of the field, it somehow changes the octet to whatever number you have in the second position times eight.
IE. 020 becomes 16; 090 becomes 72.
Not sure why it does it.Davide Del Vecchio <[EMAIL PROTECTED
The leading zero specifies that the number following is octal. This is
expected behavior, and you will find that Solaris, FreeBSD, and Solaris all
act exactly the same.
Sacha
--On Friday, April 16, 2004 15:14:24 +0200 Davide Del Vecchio
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Hi list,
I`m sorry for the O
Title: [Full-Disclosure] OT microsoft "feature"
010 =
Octal...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Davide Del VecchioSent: Fri 16/04/2004 14:14To:
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microsoft "feature"
Hi list,I`m sorry for the OT,Anyone has a good
e
010 translating into 8... it reminds to me something like octal
format,isn't it? ;)p.- Original Message - From:
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Friday, April 16, 2004 3:14 PMSubject: [Full-Disclosure] OT microsoft
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There is a full MS Q article on this:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q115388
Enjoy. :)
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Le ven 16/04/2004 à 15:14, Davide Del Vecchio a écrit :
> Anyone has a good explaination for this ?
> Windows XP Professional SP1
[...]
> C:\>ping 010.10.10.10
> Esecuzione di Ping 010.10.10.10 [8.10.10.10] con 32 byte di dati:
Leading 0 means octal notation for numbers.
> Obviously if you tr
> C:\>ping 010.010.010.010
>
> Esecuzione di Ping 010.010.010.010 [8.8.8.8] con 32 byte di dati:
>
> Control-C
> ^C
C:\>ping 0111.0101.0100.0111
Pinging 73.65.64.73 with 32 bytes of data:
Control-C
C:\Documents and Settings\svgn.LPTSVGN>ping 0x0F.0x0A.0xA5.0x1C
Pinging 15.10.165.28 with 3
"Anyone has a good explaination for this ? "
I'll leave it to you to decide if the explanation is good ...
"Windows NT utilities can accept Internet Protocol (IP) addresses comprised
of decimal, octal, or hexadecimal numbers. This can cause confusion if you
unintentionally use a leading zero in
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 03:14:24PM +0200, Davide Del Vecchio wrote:
> Obviously if you try the same thing on a *NIX or IOS the "0" is
> just ignored.
> It seems like the 0 character implies a modification in the IP field..
> It`s not a bug of the "ping" command, because it "works" on telnet, ftp..
"Davide Del Vecchio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It seems like the 0 character implies a modification in the IP field..
In some programming languages, the leading zero signals that an octal
number follows. And guess what? "10", as an octal number, denotes
the number eight...
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Quoting Davide Del Vecchio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Obviously if you try the same thing on a *NIX or IOS the "0" is
> just ignored.
> It seems like the 0 character implies a modification in the IP field..
Looks like you're pinging with octal numbers, maybe XP interprets 010 as octal
10, which is 8
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 03:14:24PM +0200, Davide Del Vecchio wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I`m sorry for the OT,
> Anyone has a good explaination for this ?
>
> Windows XP Professional SP1
>
> C:\>ping 10.10.10.10
>
> Esecuzione di Ping 10.10.10.10 con 32 byte di dati:
>
> Control-C
> ^C
> C:\>pi
Hi list,
I`m sorry for the OT,
Anyone has a good explaination for this ?
Windows XP Professional SP1
C:\>ping 10.10.10.10
Esecuzione di Ping 10.10.10.10 con 32 byte di dati:
Control-C
^C
C:\>ping 010.10.10.10
Esecuzione di Ping 010.10.10.10 [8.10.10.10] con 32 byte di dati:
Control-C
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Pe data de Vin 16 Apr 2004 16:14, Davide Del Vecchio a scris:
> Obviously if you try the same thing on a *NIX or IOS the "0" is
> just ignored.
> It seems like the 0 character implies a modification in the IP field..
> It`s not a bug of the "ping" comm
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