Brett Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thats a good point. What if one was to write a worm to reproduce and
innoculate their own systems. IP Based, can't get out. A user plugs a
laptop in, worm jumps ship, user takes laptop and plugs into another
network, worm is loose?.
Kinda like
For those of you smartass know-it-alls that think you've got the tiger
by the tail, here's a suggestion for you - volunteer your time to some
of the local educational institutions. Pick a non-profit in your local
area and help them with their network. Do some fund raising to get them
the
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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 7:30 PM
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'Full-Disclosure'
Subject: RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!
I'm going to jump out on a limb here, but I think this
story is poop. In military lingo poo
I'd be real interested to hear the names of any edus that 1) have a
firewall and 2) have a deny all policy in place and *implemented*.
Well, isn't quite a university, but two local colleges/technical schools
have this: Umpqua Community College (www.cc.umpqua.or.us) , in southern
Oregon, and
I'm going to jump out on a limb here, but I think this
story is poop. In military lingo poo poo cah cah.
No one links their ATMs over the internet, NO ONE...
and especially not the really large banks that know
better. I also noticed the story link doesn't work,
so obviously somebody got their
I'd be real interested to hear the names of any edus that 1) have a
firewall and 2) have a deny all policy in place and *implemented*.
University of Zurich, Switzerland
Sure it's not Deny all, but it's deny everything it doesn't allow.
Presently that means dropping everything that's not to
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From: Nick Jacobsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:58 AM
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BLOCK PORT 1434!
I'd be real interested to hear the names of any edus that 1) have
, January 27, 2003 7:08 AM
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BLOCK PORT 1434!
I'd be real interested to hear the names of any edus that 1) have a
firewall and 2) have a deny all policy in place and *implemented*.
University of Zurich
2003 13:10
To: Richard M. Smith
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay D. Dyson'; 'Bugtraq'; 'Full-Disclosure'
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK
PORT 1434!
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An additional ethical issue would arise if the worm was written
as a proof of concept
speculation suggested.
Jason Coombs
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At 08:29 PM 1/25/03 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
Guys,
This puppy is FAR from harmless and I mean far, This SOB is gonna
wind up
On søndag, jan 26, 2003, at 06:52 Europe/Copenhagen, Schmehl, Paul L
wrote:
Cyberterrorism Getting a bit hyped up, aren't we? It's just
another stupid worm.
No, I dont think so
Why do you consider it terrorism only when people are hurt directly?
In Denmark where I live and many other
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Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:01 PM
To: Jason Coombs
Cc: Richard M. Smith; 'Jay D. Dyson'; 'Bugtraq'; 'Full-Disclosure'
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET
BLOCK PORT 1434!
You'll find that you underestimate the number of banks
I find this ATM outage curious. A couple of jobs ago, BofA was a customer
of mine using our ATM monitoring software. At that time, 6 years ago to be
sure, ATMs were on leased lines or satellite connections to the banks
central processing systems.
In the ensuing time, have banks began using
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At Sonntag, 26. Januar 2003 16:47 Blue Boar wrote:
But my point is that for it to be cyber-terrorism, the worm author had to
intend to change people's behavior through fear.
Not neccessarily. Just leading the actual technical, social,
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From: Ron DuFresne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:01 PM
To: Schmehl, Paul L
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Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: MS SQL WORM
However, this worm might not be so harmless as it appears because of
collateral damage:
Bank of America ATMs Disrupted by Virus
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyncid=578e=3cid=569u=/nm/2
0030125/tc_nm/tech_virus_dc
SEATTLE (Reuters) - Bank of America Corp. said on
Saturday
of a government agency as my speculation suggested.
Jason Coombs
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From: Richard M. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jay D. Dyson'; 'Bugtraq'; 'Full-Disclosure'
Subject: RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING
Richard M. Smith said:
Bank of America ATMs Disrupted by Virus
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyncid=578e=3cid=569u=/nm/2
0030125/tc_nm/tech_virus_dc
SEATTLE (Reuters) - Bank of America Corp. said on
Saturday that customers at a majority of its 13,000
automatic teller
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From: Richard M. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:11 PM
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Subject: RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!
However
[ On Saturday, January 25, 2003 at 18:11:12 (-0500), Richard M. Smith wrote: ]
Subject: RE: MS SQL WORM IS DESTROYING INTERNET BLOCK PORT 1434!
However, this worm might not be so harmless as it appears because of
collateral damage:
Bank of America ATMs Disrupted by Virus
At 08:29 PM 1/25/03 -0500, Matt Smith wrote:
Guys,
This puppy is FAR from harmless and I mean far, This SOB is gonna
wind up worse than Code Red, Nimda, or even the great worm of '88. I
doubt very much the Morris Worm downed ENTIRE COUNTRIES, as Sapphire did
to South Korea today.
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