Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-20 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Gregory A. Gilliss wrote: ...as I recall, there were PDPs, IBMs, Cybers (IBM clones), CDC, VAXen, and not much else available in '88 Minor correction: Cybers (made by CDC) were nothing like IBMs. -- Dave ___ Full-Disclosure -

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-20 Thread Bruce Ediger
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Dave Horsfall quotes: On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Gregory A. Gilliss wrote: ...as I recall, there were PDPs, IBMs, Cybers (IBM clones), CDC, VAXen, and not much else available in '88 What!?! You must be kidding - there were *tons* more hardware vendors back then, at least in

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-20 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Bruce Ediger wrote: What!?! You must be kidding - there were *tons* more hardware vendors back then, at least in terms of variety, because everyone had their own CPU architecture, or at least a wildly variant operating system. From the 1988 period, you're missing out:

[Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-19 Thread Andrew J Caines
[I hold fingerd and rshd innocent on the grounds that they worked as intended, but were abused.] ...or not[1]. The point remains, however. [1] http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/hack/iworm.html -Andrew- -- ___ | -Andrew J.

[Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-19 Thread Andrew J Caines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said... Morris worm of 1988 did multiple vulnerabilities for multiple platforms. But the monoculture of sendmail was the aggravating factor which made its impact so significant - a large piece of complex software riddled with design flaws, bugs and beyond the ability of any

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:48:31 EDT, Andrew J Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I wonder how long before the current monoculture threat to the net is addressed as effectively. I fear the answer there is maybe we'll do it right when we're rebuilding it from the smoking ruins... pgp0.pgp

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [FD] Super Worm

2004-04-19 Thread Gregory A. Gilliss
Seriously-nudging-up-to-off-topic-but... You make a good (albeit incomplete) point. You left out that BITD ('88) security was NOT a line item, since the 'net was, effectively, a finite and restricted community. Not every damned idiot has a dial-up, and almost no one had their own private