Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-09 Thread Kevin Sullivan
But by ATF standards, the Windows operating system and keyboard would not need to be installed on the computer - simply possessing both components would be enough to bust you. Of course if you are running Windows 3.11 and you lawfully possessed it prior to 1995 you would be grandfathered... If

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-09 Thread Kenneth R. van Wyk
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 23:54, morning_wood wrote: > you could always turn off autorun, as I do just after installing > a fresh WinOS ...which, IMHO, is a good security practice irrespective of it breaking the CD copy protection. I've always thought that autorun is dangerous. As a good fr

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-09 Thread Dave Howe
Tim Saunders wrote: > Surely Windows violates the DCMA in itself as you can turn off autorun > therefore by passing the copy protection? Quick get some cops to go > and arrest the board of Microsoft for selling DCMA violating > software... > > Who has to complain to get the FBI/cops/whoever to arre

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-09 Thread Tim Saunders
TECTED] > Sent: 09 October 2003 04:10 > To: Cael Abal > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks > > > That's awesome man...I couldn't have said it better. > Censorship laws are very dangerous because they can be > s

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Austin Godber
Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: That's awesome man...I couldn't have said it better. Censorship laws are very dangerous because they can be selectively enforced by law enforcement with the benefit of confusing a jury. If you wanted to take the ATF's approach, it's not just having a keyboard that is b

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Gregory A. Gilliss
Oooh, I *like* that :) A valid business argument for moving away from Microsoft to UNIX: having Windows installed on a PC is a violation of the DMCA. Wonder what the government will do when they read *that* ?!? Oh, wait, M$ will just modify the EULA again ... never mind... G On or about 200

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Kristian Hermansen
Yea, me too... Kris Hermansen - Original Message - From: "morning_wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks > you could always turn off au

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread morning_wood
you could always turn off autorun, as I do just after installing a fresh WinOS morning_wood - Original Message - From: "Cael Abal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift ke

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Jonathan A. Zdziarski
That's awesome man...I couldn't have said it better. Censorship laws are very dangerous because they can be selectively enforced by law enforcement with the benefit of confusing a jury. If you wanted to take the ATF's approach, it's not just having a keyboard that is breaking the law, it's the co

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Cael Abal
Edward W. Ray wrote: http://news.com.com/2100-1025-5087875.html I'm so relieved. Now I can start buying CDs again You're *relieved*? My keyboard is a bloody Copy Protection Circumvention Device -- now what the hell am I supposed to do? http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/ C ___

[Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Edward W. Ray
http://news.com.com/2100-1025-5087875.html I'm so relieved. Now I can start buying CDs again ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

[Full-Disclosure] Shift key breaks CD copy locks

2003-10-08 Thread Edward W. Ray
http://news.com.com/2100-1025-5087875.html I'm relieved. Now I can start buying CDs again -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Internet Explor