On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Geoff Shively wrote:
> Think about it this way, security was once focused on simple solutions
> to solve problems (network architecture with security in mind, device/OS
> hardening, etc).
>
> Let us recap the history of the industry so that I can set the stage for
> where I th
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 08:38, Barry Fitzgerald wrote:
> The problem with IDS was always that people perceived IDS as being a
> magic box that automatically and exclusively detects intrusions. Anyone
> who's ever worked with an IDS knows that that couldn't be further from
> the truth. However, t
Geoff Shively wrote:
Think about it this way, security was once focused on simple solutions
to solve problems (network architecture with security in mind, device/OS
hardening, etc).
Let us recap the history of the industry so that I can set the stage for
where I think it is headed.
In the last 5-
Adam wrote:
> I believe you missed user EDUCATION?
>
> a tools weekest point is ,,, You!
Sadly, this is all but a lost cause...
> as seen by the dork who was surfing the net on a box he was using as a server
_But_ why was there even a browser (at least one of the complexity and
error-pronenes
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I believe you missed user EDUCATION?
a tools weekest point is ,,, You!
as seen by the dork who was surfing the net on a box he was using as a server
On Monday 13 September 2004 11:59 am, Harlan Carvey wrote:
> > Network security -> application secur
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Network security -> application securit
mber 13, 2004 11:23 AM
To: Jan Muenther
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Where is security industry gng??
Jan Muenther wrote:
>>Network security -> application security -> software security ->
>>
>>What do u guys thi
never fewl yerselves, jobsecurity ended when IBM started layoffs in the
70's, it's been a downhill road for employees since. Note how these days
retaining a job does not even make your retirement funds safe...
Thanks,
Ron DuFresne
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Barry Fitzgerald wrote:
> Jan Muenther w
Jan Muenther wrote:
Network security -> application security -> software security ->
What do u guys think??
job security?
or insecurity?
POC:
#!/bin/sh
if [ ! $jobsecurity ]; then
export insecurity='high';
else
unset insecurity;
fi;
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At 11:03 AM 9/13/2004, n30 wrote:
Network security -> application security -> software security ->
can easily become too focused.
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> Network security -
> Network security -> application security -> software
> security ->
>
> What do u guys think??
This sort of view is too granular...they are all part
of information security. The strongest network
security fails in the face of poor physical security.
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> Network security -> application security -> software security ->
>
> What do u guys think??
job security?
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its "going" to get you if you keep asking wanker questions..
n30 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "n30" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: "Mailing List - Full-Disclosure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Where is security industry gng??Date:
Network security -> application security -> software security ->
What do u guys think??
-n
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