RE: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-27 Thread Bassett, Mark
media company Omaha.com 402-898-2079 -Original Message- From: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:55 PM To: Bassett, Mark Cc: Paul Schmehl; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject) In some mail from

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-27 Thread Darren Reed
: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:55 PM To: Bassett, Mark Cc: Paul Schmehl; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject) In some mail from Bassett, Mark, sie said: I think something we are also

RE: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-24 Thread Bassett, Mark
there, I'm one too ;) ) Mark Bassett Network Administrator World media company Omaha.com 402-898-2079 -Original Message- From: Paul Schmehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-24 Thread Benjamin Krueger
* Bassett, Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031024 12:37]: I think something we are also forgetting is that statistically *nix users are people who are computer geeks. Average joe #1 buys his pc from Best buy pre-loaded with windows XP and has no clue how to install it. Currently vendor pre-loaded

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-23 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Gary Flynn wrote: [SNIP] 3) Microsoft's steadfast refusal to ship systems in a NO listening ports configuration by default. Cripe, now we've got anonymous, distributed file storage on how many Windows XP Shared Documents folders all over the Internet

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-23 Thread Ron DuFresne
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:00 PM -0600 Bruce Ediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real questions go something like: Source code for Unix viruses has been available for years, from sources almost too numerous to mention. Why haven't Unix

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-23 Thread George Capehart
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 11:18 pm, Paul Schmehl wrote: snip Malware follows negligent users, *not* OSes. Bingo! Cheers, /g -- George Capehart capegeo at opengroup dot org PGP Key ID: 0x63F0F642 available on most public key servers It is always possible to agglutenate multiple

Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Busser
Hi! That brings up a good point. If this issue is not exploitable on *BSD but on Linux due to a different implementation of memory handling, doesn't that mean that Linux is generally less secure than *BSD just for that reason? And if so, why haven't the Linux memory handling routines been

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-22 Thread Bruce Ediger
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Peter Busser wrote: Because Linux people in general seem to be more concerned about speed and features than about security. For example, the only reason Linux Security Modules (LSM) have been included in the kernel, is that they don't have a performance impact on users

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-22 Thread Darren Reed
In some mail from Bruce Ediger, sie said: The real questions go something like: Source code for Unix viruses has been available for years, from sources almost too numerous to mention. Why haven't Unix viruses become epidemic the way that Windows viruses have? How quickly we forget modern

Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No Subject)

2003-10-22 Thread Gary Flynn
Bruce Ediger wrote: The real questions go something like: Source code for Unix viruses has been available for years, from sources almost too numerous to mention. Why haven't Unix viruses become epidemic the way that Windows viruses have? Not sure the source has anything to do with viruses. But