Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-24 Thread maarten
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 15:02, Marek Isalski wrote: > Michael Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24/02/2004 >13:30:15 > >>> > > > >On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 20:38, Mike Barushok wrote: > Bad analogy time... > > A non-deterministic Turing Machine is a bit like having an infinite > (?probably

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-24 Thread Marek Isalski
Michael Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24/02/2004 >13:30:15 >>> >On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 20:38, Mike Barushok wrote: >> (Note to the non-mathematically inclined: Yes, it might seem >> difficult to believe, but a 4004 processor combined with >> unlimited (countable) storage, can emulate the faste

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-24 Thread Michael Williamson
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 20:38, Mike Barushok wrote: > (Note to the non-mathematically inclined: Yes, it might seem > difficult to believe, but a 4004 processor combined with > unlimited (countable) storage, can emulate the fastest super > computer, just not in 'real time'). What about a quantum comp

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread Mike Barushok
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, hybriz wrote: > > > >Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows > > From: "Richard M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:39:10 -0500 > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> &

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread hybriz
> >Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows > From: "Richard M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:39:10 -0500 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Let's get to the bottom line. Would this page e

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread William Warren
leading to cruddier and more bloated code and yet more security problems..won't it be interesting if these hardware technologies have "overflows" of their own..:) Richard M. Smith wrote: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4696 Chips to ease Microsoft's big security nightmare 1

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. "Richard M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AMD's Athlon-64 (for PCs) and Opteron (for servers) will protect against > buffer overflows when used with a new version of Windows XP. Intel plans > similar features on next generation Pentium chips. If I'm not mistaken, this is just about AMD

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Coming soon: CPU fix for buffer overflows

2004-02-23 Thread hybriz
first of all, despite of what that news website says, that is old news. second, it's just a page execution bit implementation like other archs have, it doesnt mean that buffer overflows can will be avoided, it just means non-exec stack can be subject of a page-wise implementation (not that it hasnt