Greetings!
On Thu, 27 May 2004 19:27:09 +0200 Maarten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mmmm... answered my own question with a bit of googling, sorry...
But it may be helpful or useful in this thread too, so here goes:
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Surely not comparable to Ghost, but with no extra effort or cost...
Ghost won't work (IIRC) on unknown OS types as it ony copies used data
blocks. Netcat does a binary copy and does not care what OS or data...
Not sure about newer versions of Ghost, but I know some older versions will copy
unknown partition types just fine; it merely does a bitwise copy of
Volker Tanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ghost won't work (IIRC) on unknown OS types as it ony copies used data
blocks. Netcat does a binary copy and does not care what OS or data...
That just might be a limitation if you are GUI-bound, but I'm sure
there are (or, at least were on the most
On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 10:14, Curt Purdy wrote:
You are right about vmWare. It is THE most usefull tool for lab work I've
found. When you are through trashing a virtual OS, just delete it and copy
over the original folder that you initially backed up and you're good to go
again.
Why so
Microsoft is currently offering VirtualPC
(formerly Connectix, similar to VMWare)
and they have a beta programme for their upcoming
Virtual Server (server-oriented VirtualPC).
Also, for servers, they have a Advanced Deployment Services.
Ondra
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 03:53:03PM -0500, Shawn Cox
Michael Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are building a Windows test system, to try out tool bars, spy ware,
malware and trojans on.
Once we learn what we need to know, we obviously want to get rid of the
junk quickly and cleanly.
I keep hearing suggestions about having a clean image
Of James Riden
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Michael Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all
We are building a Windows test system, to try out tool bars, spy ware,
malware and trojans
On Thursday 27 May 2004 16:09, Nick FitzGerald wrote:
Michael Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are building a Windows test system, to try out tool bars, spy ware,
malware and trojans on.
Once we learn what we need to know, we obviously want to get rid of the
junk quickly and
On Thursday 27 May 2004 18:30, Kevin Connolly wrote:
Maarten wrote:
This is an interesting thread... But out of curiosity, is it also
possible to do backup / restores using readily available linux tools?
I'd like to be able to do something like running dd over a network
connection, or
Maarten wrote:
This is an interesting thread... But out of curiosity, is it also possible to
do backup / restores using readily available linux tools?
I'd like to be able to do something like running dd over a network connection,
or tar, or whatever other tool. In that case, a bootable CD is
This is an interesting thread... But out of curiosity, is it also possible to
do backup / restores using readily available linux tools?
I'd like to be able to do something like running dd over a network connection,
or tar, or whatever other tool. In that case, a bootable CD is all you
if you create partitions in Windows (or maybe an old Linux off CD) the
partition table gets written somehow.
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is Knoppix-based, this might do what I think you're looking for.
Jon
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On Thursday 27 May
In a large telemarketing company I used to I.T. for, we ran across Deep
Freeze. (http://www.faronics.com/)
This product allowed pretty much any changes to be made to the machine
including customizations, deletions, and propagation of virus / worms,
without harm to the machine. In fact all it
Hi Michael, there are a number ways to create testing environments with
clean images. I have built a few corporate test labs and would be happy to
help you build one. Microsoft's sysprep used to be the only working way to
reproduce clean automated installs (and the only supported). Lately I have
Norton/Symantec Ghost
PowerQuest Drive Image(I think Norton gobbled this one up)
Or for the truly crafty vmWare.
--S
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From: Michael Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michael Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all
We are building a Windows test system, to try out tool bars, spy ware,
malware and trojans on.
Once we learn what we need to know, we obviously want to get rid of
the junk quickly and cleanly.
I keep hearing suggestions about having a
--- Shawn Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Norton/Symantec Ghost
PowerQuest Drive Image(I think Norton gobbled this
one up)
Or for the truly crafty vmWare.
Yeah. And do remember that though VMware is the
platform of choice for many testlabs, malware can
change its behaviour when it detects
Any reason not to just use Ghost?
Also, some people use VMWARE, and make a clean VMWARE image, copy it,
load the suspicious stuff, and then delete it afterwards. If you have
your virtual network interfaces disabled, it may be a fairly safe
sandbox to work in.
Mark Lachniet
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Ghost or just image the drive.
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How about using VMWARE,
building your windows system in a virtual machine, then using the snapshot
to snapshot your initial clean system, then you can install the malware etc
and test, while you want the clean system, just revert it to the clean system.
-vertex
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at
: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Imaging Operating Systems
Michael Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all
We are building a Windows test system, to try out tool bars, spy ware,
malware and trojans on.
Once we learn what
On 26 May 2004, at 19:55, Michael Schaefer wrote:
I keep hearing suggestions about having a clean image to transfer
onto the computer.
Is there an official Microsoft way to do this?
two methods:
1) Unattended Install (link is for a CD based version, we do it from a
network install server)
Cox
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Norton/Symantec Ghost
PowerQuest Drive Image(I think Norton gobbled this one up)
Or for the truly crafty vmWare.
--S
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From: Michael
There are also some open source alternatives,
mondo/mindi
udpcast
I use a modified version of udpcast put on a knoppix disk to do big
network installs.We keep a small 6gb image on a image server and then
the knoppix disk will transfer the image and resize the partitions based
upon the size of the
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