Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-31 Thread yossarian
country, just look at our PM's face Bit sad this has to be explained. Think some people in security need some legal training. - Original Message - From: Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-31 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Sunday, August 31, 2003 1:32 AM +0200 yossarian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bit sad this has to be explained. Think some people in security need some legal training. Really? I prefer not to assume things, which is why I asked him for clarification. Perhaps you assume laws are the same

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-31 Thread Kryptos
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed : Entering is going into a house without breaking a lock. Breaking in, well, : that is when there is some lock, and it is broken. Insurance companies : really

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-31 Thread Peter Busser
Hi! On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 06:46:00PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Sunday, August 31, 2003 1:32 AM +0200 yossarian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bit sad this has to be explained. Think some people in security need some legal training. Really? I prefer not to assume things, which is why

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-30 Thread Peter Busser
Hi! Interesting (child-like) thoughts, but in reality, this society we live in has laws. If a person leaves the door to their home unlocked one evening (consciously or mistakenly) and someone chooses to go inside and ransacks the place. Sure the homeowner probably should have locked the

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-30 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:22 PM +0200 Peter Busser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about US, Canadian, German or Chinese law. But in Dutch law there is a big difference between entering a house and stealing stuff and breaking into a house and stealing exactly the same stuff.

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-30 Thread Hoho
Whenever someone makes the analogy about breaking into someone's computer and breaking into someone's house, I always must suggest otherwise. Say I live across the street from you, and am out on my lawn talking to you while you're on your lawn, yelling across the street. And let's say that

RE: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-30 Thread Kurt
| --On Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:22 PM +0200 Peter Busser | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | I don't know about US, Canadian, German or Chinese law. But | in Dutch law | there is a big difference between entering a house and | stealing stuff and | breaking into a house and stealing exactly the

Re: [Full-Disclosure] MS Blaster author / morning_wood misinformed

2003-08-30 Thread Stormwalker
Hi Paul, The difference is Breaking and Entering vs Trespassing. They carry different penalties, just like Grand Theft Auto is not the same as Unauthorized Use of a vehicle. There are real differences in terms in arrests and judgements. Not that it really matters...