RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Administrivia: Testing Emergency VirusFilter..

2003-08-21 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Paul! On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Paul Schmehl wrote: Now change the word virus to trojan or rootkit, and your defense of *nix falls apart. Notice I never used the words UNIX. NT can be run in a trusted manner, just not with an ethernet card according to the US Gov standards. Several OS other

Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Administrivia: Testing Emergency VirusFilter..

2003-08-21 Thread Nick FitzGerald
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with virii such as this is not the software but the wetware - the bewildered enduser who fails to use his machine in a secure manner responsible to his community. Only partially right, the other part is bugs in software and automation

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Administrivia: Testing Emergency VirusFilter..

2003-08-20 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Drew! On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Drew Copley wrote: I don't know how that guy thought that the smtp client portion of this code was an OS issue... How that is OS design. I don't know why such people would be offering their opinion on this. The difference is this between and secure OS and an

RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Administrivia: Testing Emergency VirusFilter..

2003-08-20 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, August 20, 2003 17:37:48 -0700 Gary E. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference is this between and secure OS and an insecure one. On an Insecure OS, the virus gets in. glues itself on anywhere in the machine. Maybe it attaches to a boot sector, maybe appends itself to a