Various people are complaining about the length of this discussion and
the fact that it does not belong here, I can't disagree. There are of
course already plenty of places to discuss this, I will also be
populating discussions on my new forum:
http://ra66i.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1&sid=a6ac5
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--Microsoft Releases List of Products that Could Conflict with XP sp2
(16 August 2004)
Microsoft has issued a document that lists about 50 applications and
games that may have trouble with the recently released Windows XP
Service Pack 2. Among the
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 13:35 -0400, joe wrote:
> > And as for backwards compatibility, OSS software
> > generally doesn't have to worry about backwards
> > compatibility, the source is advailble, so most
> > of the time it's possible to make it work. Oh,
> > and I find wine on linux offers bette
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On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 10:33 -0300, James Tucker wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:52:53 +, ktabic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 10:33 -0300, James Tucker wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:52:53 +, ktabic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 15:54 -0500, Ron DuFresne wrote:
> > > Ahh, but this was an error on your end sir, M$ has always advised that
> > > patching or adding apps to the
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 15:54 -0500, Ron DuFresne wrote:
> Ahh, but this was an error on your end sir, M$ has always advised that
> patching or adding apps to the system should be done with everything
> closed, and in most cases users are best served to reboot and patch/add
> apps prior to doing anyt
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:33:18 PDT, Harlan Carvey said:
> Wow! MS goes about doing what the security folks have
> been harping on for years...providing a modicum of
> security in their operating system...and now it's a
> "crap update"? Protection against buffer overflows,
> the firewall on by defa
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On Aug 12, 2004, at 10:19 PM, Phillip R. Paradis wrote:
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Ultimately what difference to an end user does it make if the
applications
are broken by a service pack i
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On Aug 12, 2004, at 10:19 PM, Phillip R. Paradis wrote:
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Ultimately what difference to an end user does it make if the
applications
are broken by a service pack install or a virus?
N
> And sometimes the patch tries to be a smartass. In my case SP2
> intalled its temp-files not to my TEMP-folder, but to another drive
this un-standard behaviour has be microsoft standard with all the service packs of ms
since win2k sp1 .
-aditya
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> Ultimately what difference to an end user does it make if the
> applications
> are broken by a service pack install or a virus?
None at all. But the user has control over installing servic
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Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] SP2 is killing me. Help?
Thanks for the tips (esp. Darren, the article at crn.com provided just
the information I needed.). I ran the applicable uninstall program from
within windows, and rolled back to sp1 (and all previous
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Nils Ketelsen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:24:33AM -0400, ASB wrote:
> > SP2 works fine, so long as people actually read the deployment docs
> > *prior* to installing it.
> >
> > There's always going to be someone who can't install a patch or hotfix
> > (or the OS, for
Title: RE: [Full-Disclosure] SP2 is killing me. Help?
Evidently XP SP2 breaks things outside of the box also, for example the Juniper Network NetScreen SSL based VPN:
http://i.nl02.net/netline000s/?msg=msg.htm.txt&_m=26%2e106n%2e1%2els06p00imk%2e3
Otto
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In some mail from xtrecate, sie said:
>
> I made the mistake of installing SP2 last night, and I'm having some
seriou
On Thursday 12 August 2004 17:34, Harlan Carvey wrote:
> > i agree that this is "crap update".
>
> Ok.
>
> > don't use windoze for anything serious, but a person
> > familiar with windoze
> > said sp2 breaks so much warez it is unusable.
>
> Just how useful is a phrase like "breaks so much warez
>
oject or some guy in
Building 41 on Microsoft's Redmond Campus working on an MS OS kernel.
joe
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> i agree that this is "crap update".
Ok.
> don't use windoze for anything serious, but a person
> familiar with windoze
> said sp2 breaks so much warez it is unusable.
Just how useful is a phrase like "breaks so much warez
it is unusable"?
So far, I've seen multiple posts to various lists
wh
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:24:33AM -0400, ASB wrote:
> SP2 works fine, so long as people actually read the deployment docs
> *prior* to installing it.
>
> There's always going to be someone who can't install a patch or hotfix
> (or the OS, for that matter)
And sometimes the patch tries to be a sm
well can't speak for sp2 upgrade installations. anyways i slipstreamed
sp2 into a corporate edition SP1 WinXP CD, and did a clean install. no
problems at all, every single app working like before with sp1.
though i gotta admit the first thing i disabled was the security center
in services.th
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 03:33:18AM -0700, Harlan Carvey wrote:
>
> Wow! MS goes about doing what the security folks have
> been harping on for years...providing a modicum of
> security in their operating system...and now it's a
> "crap update"? Protection against buffer overflows,
> the firewall
Darren,
> Windows XP SP2 has got to be up there with Windows
> NT 4.0 service pack 2
> in terms of crap updates, possibly even worse.
> Maybe M$ are trying to
> push everyone away from Windows ?
Wow! MS goes about doing what the security folks have
been harping on for years...providing a modic
SP2 works fine, so long as people actually read the deployment docs
*prior* to installing it.
There's always going to be someone who can't install a patch or hotfix
(or the OS, for that matter)
-ASB
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:29:20 +1000 (Australia/NSW), Darren Reed
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> In s
In some mail from xtrecate, sie said:
>
> I made the mistake of installing SP2 last night, and I'm having some serious
> issues. Nearly every dialog box shows up blank, I am unable to set options
> and/or access program functionality in practically every application on this
> machine.
Windows XP
>>Does anyone know of an alternate way to initiate a sp2 rollback?
Try System Restore. I think you can get at it from booting with F8.
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