EXACTLY!! Sorry to post a one word reply and not trim the fat from this
post, but, it's probably one of the best replies to this whole thread, and
worth a second read!
Thanks,
Ron DuFresne
On 15 Jan 2004, Kenton Smith wrote:
> These have got to be trolls. This is the most pathetic argument I
"Chris Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So do you expect Annie to fix these broken locks or doors??
Nope. Annie is not reading this list. Microsoft probably does.
> What you are saying is that you would not need a wall if the locks
> worked properly??
Nope. What I'm saying is that the doors to
These have got to be trolls. This is the most pathetic argument I have
ever heard for not using security products.
The software we use is bad and inherently insecure, people don't know
what they're doing. Therefore the only solution is to open it all up and
wait for the software vendors to fix all
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Mary Landesman wrote:
> Interpretation is subjective, but I have always interpreted the Sam Spade
> rant to be directed at the alerting many of these PFWs do, vs. the actual
> effectiveness. In fact, his point seems to be to get a hardware-based
> firewall. This isn't an optio
All: shut up and deface their site:
Name:www.personalfirewallday.com
Address: 209.50.252.247
It's a Linux box running Web/Mail/DNS.
G
On or about 2004.01.15 05:25:51 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>
>
> We hereby reject this utter horseshit unreservedly.
>
> What ar
om
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From: "Erik van Straten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] UTTER HORSESHIT: [was January 15 is Personal
Firewall Day, help the cause]
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]&qu
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Mary Landesman wrote:
> Interpretation is subjective, but I have always interpreted the Sam Spade
> rant to be directed at the alerting many of these PFWs do, vs. the actual
> effectiveness.
I read the rant there as a fed up admin/code warrior tired of dealing with
bug report
gards,
Mary Landesman
Antivirus About.com Guide
http://antivirus.about.com
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From: "Gregory A. Gilliss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] UTTER HORSESHIT: [was January
ke telling
>someone
>not to bother locking their front door, because an intruder could
>come in
>through the back and unlock the front one... Better to learn to
>lock both
>doors, use the peephole, etc.
>
>Regards,
>Mary Landesman
>Antivirus About.com Guide
>http://antiviru
All: shut up and deface their site:
Name:www.personalfirewallday.com
Address: 209.50.252.247
It's a Linux box running Web/Mail/DNS.
G
On or about 2004.01.15 05:25:51 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
>
>
> We hereby reject this utter horseshit unreservedly.
>
> What ar
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Mary Landesman wrote:
> Interpretation is subjective, but I have always interpreted the Sam Spade
> rant to be directed at the alerting many of these PFWs do, vs. the actual
> effectiveness.
I read the rant there as a fed up admin/code warrior tired of dealing with
bug report
These have got to be trolls. This is the most pathetic argument I have
ever heard for not using security products.
The software we use is bad and inherently insecure, people don't know
what they're doing. Therefore the only solution is to open it all up and
wait for the software vendors to fix all
improvement over having nothing between Annie and the Internet.
--Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik van
Straten
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] UTTER HORSESHIT: [was Ja
om
- Original Message -
From: "Erik van Straten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] UTTER HORSESHIT: [was January 15 is Personal
Firewall Day, help the cause]
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]&qu
Personal Firewall!
Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid
prolonged exposure to Personal Firewall.
Caution: Personal Firewall may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
Personal Firewall Contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture,
should not be
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We hereby reject this utter horseshit unreservedly.
Agreed - when it's intended to "protect" aunt Annie's Xmas present.
It just makes NO SENSE to have PC's listening on lots of ports, by
default on any interface, and then add a PFW to prevent anyone fro
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