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Paul Schmehl
[snip]
We expect people to change the oil in their cars regularly.
Why don't we expect similar behavior in the computer world?
Would you blame OpenBSD if a user got hacked because he
hadn't bothered to patch?
The car analogy is a
[SNIP]
Would you blame OpenBSD if a user got hacked because he hadn't bothered to
patch?
I'm not arguing that Microsoft has done the right thing or even that their
OS is secure. (It isn't, and I refuse to use it as a server unless forced
to. I prefer to use FreeBSD whenever
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From: Ron DuFresne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:30 AM
To: Schmehl, Paul L
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Who's to blame for malicious code?
Wasn't it you that made the argument during the msblaster
Hi Paul,
Am Mi, den 21.01.2004 schrieb Paul Schmehl um 06:53:
...
The two examples I gave in my initial answer to you actually contain
that. I wonder why you didn't comment on them. What's your opinion on an
enabled RPC port by default in consumer OSs?
Precisely the same as my opinion
Dear Paul,
Am Mi, den 21.01.2004 schrieb Schmehl, Paul L um 19:23:
...Tobias wants to lay *all* the blame at
Microsoft's feet, and I disagree.
_I_ must have made some mistakes expressing myself correctly because you
seem not to understand me :-) (See? I don't blame you. I blame myself
for
-- a lot of cutting here --
|Hopefully that clarifies my position.
Let's clarify mine. First of all, I mean no offence. BUT: I've had it
with you. I signed up for Full Disclosure, not for Full Disclosure
and Paul Schmechl. So I expect to see and hear information that
strictly serves to
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tobias Weisserth
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Who's to blame for malicious code?
And yes, we know by now. Then why is it so hard
Hi Paul,
a few last words since this is going into repetitive mode now ;-)
Am Do, den 22.01.2004 schrieb Schmehl, Paul L um 00:44:
...
It's an impossible goal.
I know :-)
Of course it's impossible. It's as impossible as trying to change end
users.
Yet we have to try because it is still
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Yes, I believe it was me, although you could easily verify that with the
archives.
perhaps I'm thinking it was you and in fact it
was someone else Either the arguement was false then and
windows admins were and remain just plain lazy, or the
argument
Hi Paul,
Am Di, den 20.01.2004 schrieb Schmehl, Paul L um 19:53:
This is too easy. It's the same with guns. People always
blame the people who pull the trigger but the fact that guns
are soo damn easy to get, even for minors doesn't startle
a soul...
This is a ludicrous
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Paul L
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:53 PM
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Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Who's to blame for malicious code?
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--On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:31 PM +0100 Tobias Weisserth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The two examples I gave in my initial answer to you actually contain
that. I wonder why you didn't comment on them. What's your opinion on an
enabled RPC port by default in consumer OSs?
Precisely the same as
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