Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-28 Thread Rene Gielen
A follow up to my last message: of course getClass() *is public*, which makes things even worse. As such, class is an 100% property according to Java Beans Specification. I would have failed on the job interview :) - René Am 26.04.14 12:59, schrieb Rene Gielen: > Hi Tim, > > Am 25.04.14 22:06, s

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-27 Thread Rene Gielen
We have reports of RCE in specific environments. For that reason RCE is our maximum impact rating. Am 26.04.14 12:54, schrieb Alexander Georgiev: > Is the new vuln just a DoS or RCE one? It seems to be "only" a DoS. > > > Am 25. April 2014 23:28:54 schrieb Tim : > >> >> Hi Rene, >> >> Thanks fo

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-26 Thread Alexander Georgiev
Is the new vuln just a DoS or RCE one? It seems to be "only" a DoS. Am 25. April 2014 23:28:54 schrieb Tim : Hi Rene, Thanks for your responses. Keep in mind my criticisms are not directed soley at you. They are directed at the entire Struts team, it's practices and culture. I've been on

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-26 Thread Rene Gielen
Hi Tim, Am 25.04.14 22:06, schrieb Tim: > > Hi Rene, > > Thanks for your responses. Keep in mind my criticisms are not > directed soley at you. They are directed at the entire Struts team, > it's practices and culture. I don't know what insights you have to our practices in general and our cu

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-25 Thread Tim
Hi Rene, Thanks for your responses. Keep in mind my criticisms are not directed soley at you. They are directed at the entire Struts team, it's practices and culture. I've been on the front lines with applications who were pwned by Struts bugs and thousands of users' personal information expos

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-25 Thread Tim
Also, I'm a tad confused by the regex you have as a stop-gap. For the readers' convenience: (.*\.|^|.*|\[('|"))(c|C)lass(\.|('|")]|\[).*,^dojo\..*,^struts\..*,^session\..*,^request\..*,^application\..*,^servlet(Request|Response)\..*,^parameters\..*,^action:.*,^method:.* If your regex evaluatio

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-25 Thread Rene Gielen
Thanks for pointing this out. The mitigation advice is obsolete once the security patch release currently under review is published. Your point should be addressed there. We would have delivered the release along with the announcement if this issues would not have been disclosed already. Thanks, R

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-25 Thread Rene Gielen
Hi, Am 25.04.14 18:52, schrieb Tim: > > > So I have to say, I feel like the Struts team is kind of... failing. > Here are my gripes: > > A) I questioned the last bug fix in the thread here [1], where we >were all reassured that it was just "ClassLoader manipulation", not >RCE. Clearly

Re: [FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-25 Thread Tim
So I have to say, I feel like the Struts team is kind of... failing. Here are my gripes: A) I questioned the last bug fix in the thread here [1], where we were all reassured that it was just "ClassLoader manipulation", not RCE. Clearly that's not true. B) The fix for the last CVE was th

[FD] [ANN] Struts 2 up to 2.3.16.1: Zero-Day Exploit Mitigation (security | critical)

2014-04-24 Thread Rene Gielen
In Struts 2.3.16.1, an issue with ClassLoader manipulation via request parameters was supposed to be resolved. Unfortunately, the correction wasn't sufficient. A security fix release fully addressing this issue is in preparation and will be released as soon as possible. Once the release is availa