Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On Sat, 05 May 2007 19:18:07 CDT, Brian Loe said: > instance, gun magazines. Once you do, you'll see that things like > pistols are very specialized - geared toward competitive shooting, > concealed carry, general defence, etc.. Things a bad guy just isn't > interested in - for that, the gun manuf

Re: [funsec] Student NOT arrested over Counter Strike map

At 08:16 PM 5/3/2007 +0300, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: >"An American student who made a Counter Strike map of Clements High School has been arrested and sent to an "Alternative Education Center". > In the interests of using information from a source more objective than a gamer site, see: http://www

RE: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

>>> Now, lets address your cab driver's issues. How far is he willing to run before he makes a stand? My guess is that he'll make one more move. When he retires, he'll probably head for a warmer climate where the winters are less severe. He didn't look like the skiing type to me. Richard

RE: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

Brian, >>> Gun manufacturers do not sell their guns to bad guys. Somebody does. Attached is a 2005 email that I sent to executives at Rugers about one of their products being "used" in my neighborhood. I never got a reply. My assumption by the lack of reply is that these executives weren't too

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Brian Loe wrote: > On 5/5/07, Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > but really, a hand grenade can be great defensive weapon - just not on > > > a plane. > > > > No, really, it's a great defensive weapon on a plane, too. I think you > > missed the main pouint of my sarcas

Re: [funsec] BaySec

Blue Boar wrote: This is a Wednesday, does that help any? it depends on the weather. being a week day will help. i'll definitely drop in, i enjoy meeting new folks in sf and drinking good beer. -rick Ryan Rick Wesson wrote: My office is just two blocks fro

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/5/07, Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but really, a hand grenade can be great defensive weapon - just not on > a plane. No, really, it's a great defensive weapon on a plane, too. I think you missed the main pouint of my sarcasm. You're a Liberal, right? Liberals don't get sarcasm. I

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/5/07, Dude VanWinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gun manufacturers do not sell their guns to bad guys. Manufacturers > sell their wares to gun dealers and gun dealers sell those ware to > people who qualify for purchase in the most restricted and government > regulated business in the Uni

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/5/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Passengers on Flight 93 only decided to fight back once they had learned via cellphone that 2 other hijacked planes had just been turned into suicide WMDs. In almost all previous plane hijackings, earlier hijackers were not bent of committin

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Brian Loe wrote: > On 5/5/07, Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And again, people who want to do bad things will do them. Banning > > > weapons that can be used in defense of life does NOTHING but disallow > > > the good guys from protecting themselves. I don't know h

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

THANK YOU AND AMEN!!! You said everything... and you never go wrong quoting Heinlein. On 05 May 2007 23:05:42 +, Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: when the safety lobby proved that passivity would save more risked-lives in the long run than reactivity, passivity became universal policy.

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/5/07, Drsolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And again, people who want to do bad things will do them. Banning > weapons that can be used in defense of life does NOTHING but disallow > the good guys from protecting themselves. I don't know how many > examples of this people need before they w

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/5/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian, On Friday, I struck up a conversation with a cab driver who was giving me a ride in downtown Boston. Since he spoke with an accent, I asked where he was original from. He said Somalia which he left about 15 years ago because of th

Re: [funsec] OT: But security sorta related...

McVeigh? Nah, just some crackpot with an aol.com address. (old skool burn) I don't think reading that was much fun. On 5/5/07, Richard M. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Was this written by the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh? Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [funsec] BaySec

Not in the least unless things have dramatically changed. That place is hipster/bicycle heaven. Used to be a real biker bar but then got overrun by the after-critical-mass bikers so the real bikers moved down to Howard and 7th. I'd be there but travel plans place me at a friend's wedding 3,000 mi

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

when the safety lobby proved that passivity would save more risked-lives in the long run than reactivity, passivity became universal policy. women are told that their best chance of surviving a rape attack is to submit; citizens in general are told that their best chance of surviving a robbery is

RE: [funsec] OT: But security sorta related...

Was this written by the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh? Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Loe Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:19 PM To: FunSec [List] Subject: [funsec] OT: But security sorta related... "Resistance is F

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Brian Loe wrote: > On 5/4/07, Jeffrey Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Granted that guns and knives on a plane are bad things all around when you > > have people willing to die to kill others, but what about pepper spray? Not > > generally considered as deadly, but for

[funsec] OT: But security sorta related...

"Resistance is Futile": Waco Rules vs. Romanian Rules by Mike Vanderboegh "What country can preserve itsliberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their peoplepreserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to setthem right as to facts, pardo

RE: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

Passengers on Flight 93 only decided to fight back once they had learned via cellphone that 2 other hijacked planes had just been turned into suicide WMDs. In almost all previous plane hijackings, earlier hijackers were not bent of committing suicide and taking all the passengers with them. So ye

Re: [funsec] BaySec

This is a Wednesday, does that help any? Ryan Rick Wesson wrote: > > My office is just two blocks from the Zeitgeist, its the best place to > find me on a friday afternoon after 3pm. I get there at 3pm so I can > stake out a table. We hung out there yesterday till

RE: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

Brian, >>> And again, people who want to do bad things will do them. >>> Banning weapons that can be used in defense of life does >>> NOTHING but disallow the good guys from protecting themselves. >>> I don't know how many examples of this people need before >>> they wake up to this simpl

Re: [funsec] BaySec

My office is just two blocks from the Zeitgeist, its the best place to find me on a friday afternoon after 3pm. I get there at 3pm so I can stake out a table. We hung out there yesterday till about 7pm. During this time of year the Zeitgeist is best during the daylight hours and arriving early

[funsec] BaySec

Matasano-style informal get together in San Francisco on May 16: http://ryanlrussell.blogspot.com/2007/05/baysec.html http://raffy.ch/blog/2007/05/02/baysec-meeting-on-may-16th-2007/ http://rdist.root.org/2007/05/01/baysec-meetup-on-may-16/ If you're in the area, I expect to see you there! ;)

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007 18:11:49 CDT, Brian Loe said: > Name a single instance where the SWAT team entered a school before the > killer had already finished killing his victims and himself? Virginia Tech. The police managed to get the doors o

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On 5/4/07, Jeffrey Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Granted that guns and knives on a plane are bad things all around when you have people willing to die to kill others, but what about pepper spray? Not generally considered as deadly, but for the most part will incapacitate someone. I would b

[funsec] Bush administration proposes retroactive immunity for phone companies

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070504-bush-administration-proposes-r etroactive-immunity-for-phone-companies.html Bush administration proposes retroactive immunity for phone companies By Nate Anderson | Published: May 04, 2007 - 01:33P

Re: [funsec] Student arrested over Counter Strike map

On Fri, 4 May 2007, Brad Lhotsky wrote: > Drsolly wrote: > > > > Yes, I've always wondered why they won't let me carry a bomb onto an > > airplane. It isn't bombs that kill people, it's people that kill people. > > > Armed with fresh indoct^H^H^H^H^Heducation from a CISSP Exam Prep Class, > I'