Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Juha-Matti Laurio
Absolutely. MS08-067 raised the SANS ISC InfoCon to Yellow http://isc.sans.org/infocon.html and that doesn't happen every month. When you look into payload of Win32/Gimmiv.A Trojan the motivation behind the exploitation is very clear. This vulnerability has been reportedly the weapon of targeted

Re: [funsec] Off Topic: Any reported issues with MS08-067 functionality?

2008-10-23 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Wiped out my routers here right after the update ... thought Verizon had dropped the ball since it happens often here. Wasn't until I shut off all of the routers and rekicked them that everything came back. Wired as well as WiFi here ... At 06:22 PM 10/23/2008, Paul Ferguson wrote: >-BEGIN

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Jack McCarthy
> How? (This is hypothetical here) I am running XPSP2 and my firewall is > on. I don't have file and print sharing on, as is the case with the > overwhelming majority of XPSP2 users. Change the perspective at which you look at it. Plant the seed (think drive-by, think rouge antivirus/antispyware

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
Oh clearly it's a real threat. It's just not the threat it would have been a few years ago. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paul Fer

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Default? And what might those rulesets be, pray tell? >> >> http://support.microsoft.c

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Default? >>>And what might those rulesets be, pray tell? > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;ln;xpsp2swhw and a > hundred other URLs at Microsoft.com: "By

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
>> Default? >>And what might those rulesets be, pray tell? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;ln;xpsp2swhw and a hundred other URLs at Microsoft.com: "By default, Windows Firewall is enabled and blocks unsolicited connections to your computer." That's the default configuration afte

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All XP SP2 and later users have the firewall on by default. Surely this > is an immense percentage of users by now. > Default? And what might those rulesets be, pray tell?

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
All XP SP2 and later users have the firewall on by default. Surely this is an immense percentage of users by now. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Mess

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > << If you have a system that is not patched against this threat, you > will be pwned in the same fashion as the MS05-039 exploit spread like > wildfire -- that was my point. >

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
<< If you have a system that is not patched against this threat, you will be pwned in the same fashion as the MS05-039 exploit spread like wildfire -- that was my point. How? (This is hypothetical here) I am running XPSP2 and my firewall is on. I don't have file and print sharing on, as is the cas

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IIRC, MS05-039 didn't hit XP SP2 users as hard as those of earlier > versions for the same reasons MS08-067 doesn't. Back then XPSP2 was > relatively new, about a year old and

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
IIRC, MS05-039 didn't hit XP SP2 users as hard as those of earlier versions for the same reasons MS08-067 doesn't. Back then XPSP2 was relatively new, about a year old and met with a lot of resistance, so the world was full of vulnerable systems. How many pre-XP SP2 systems are out there in the wil

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Larry Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>-Block TCP ports 139 and 445 at the firewall > So it's serious, about as serious a bug as we've seen from Microsoft in > at least 2 or 3 years, but it's no Blaster. People a

Re: [funsec] WTF Watch: EstDomains, Inc Takes Next Step in Combating Spam and Malware

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Nick FitzGerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ferg wrote: > >> Sure, I believe this. Why wouldn't I want to download and use software >> from Estdomains? > > But _where_ is the download link? > > I have a few malware l

Re: [funsec] Off Topic: Any reported issues with MS08-067 functionality?

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For what it's worth, I just tried again and it seems to work okay. Granted, I'm now on an _open_ wifi vs. a WPA/WPA2 or WEP connection, but I'm not sure if that makes any difference. Greetz from the bar in D.C. :-) - - ferg On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 a

Re: [funsec] Off Topic: Any reported issues with MS08-067 functionality?

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
I'm on Wifi and it didn't mess with me. The bug has to do with resolving canonical names in shares (see http://blogs.msdn.com/sdl/archive/2008/10/22/ms08-067.aspx), so I can't see why it would have the effect you describe, but everyone knows this shit's too complicated. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Sec

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Larry Seltzer
>>-Block TCP ports 139 and 445 at the firewall This is critical, but note that any firewall not written by a complete idiot will block these ports. So as a practical matter a very large percentage of users are effectively protected by their router firewall and/or by Windows Firewall or a 3rd party

Re: [funsec] WTF Watch: EstDomains, Inc Takes Next Step in Combating Spam and Malware

2008-10-23 Thread Nick FitzGerald
ferg wrote: > Sure, I believe this. Why wouldn't I want to download and use software from > Estdomains? But _where_ is the download link? Regards, Nick FitzGerald ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailm

[funsec] Off Topic: Any reported issues with MS08-067 functionality?

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Was just wondering if anyone else has experienced WiFi (?) connectivity problems after installed MS08-067 today... I have two valid instances (myself :-) and a colleague) where after rebooting, we cannot successfully retrieve the proper DHCP informati

Re: [funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Juha-Matti Laurio
And it is http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/ms08-067.mspx Recommended workarounds: -Disable the Server and Computer Browser services -Block TCP ports 139 and 445 at the firewall Go and patch ASAP this RPC vulnerability, folks. Juha-Matti Juha-Matti Laurio [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirj

Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile Phones

2008-10-23 Thread David Lodge
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:25:41 +0100, Tomas L. Byrnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Labour were sure to ban guns before moving on to biometrically linking > the personally owned tracking and listening device. Apologies for dragging out the old firearms ban stuff again; but contrary to popular kno

Re: [funsec] WTF Watch: EstDomains, Inc Takes Next Step in Combating Spam and Malware

2008-10-23 Thread Jeff Kell
Paul Ferguson wrote: > Today EstDomains, Inc (http://www.estdomains.com) is glad to introduce to > the internet-oriented community advanced software created especially for > browsing through the World Wide Web in order to detect corrupted and > potentially dangerous websites. Well, they fscking o

Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile Phones

2008-10-23 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
You grossly overestimate the effectiveness of air power and other weapons designed for use against mechanized forces in the field against an insurgency. Aks, ARs, Garands, and any semi-auto handgun would be very effective in any revolution. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile Phones

2008-10-23 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
AKs are popguns, and not very effective outside 100M, however, except for a few fascist states, you can own a Barrett, and .50 BMG is NOT a popgun. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of quispiam lepidus >Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:25 P

Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile Phones

2008-10-23 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
We've exercised all of them in the past 200 years. While Johnny Reb may have lost the Civil War, he made the point that the Federal Government can only push the people so far. See also the LA Riots. >-Original Message- >From: Drsolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, October 20,

Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile Phones

2008-10-23 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
Labour were sure to ban guns before moving on to biometrically linking the personally owned tracking and listening device. Gun bans are usually one of the first steps towards tyranny, for your and the children's safety, of course. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

Re: [funsec] UK: Passports Will Be Needed to Buy Mobile Phones

2008-10-23 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
It's worked better than in France, Germany, and the UK, which have each, in the same period, had some pretty tyrannical governments, and the UK seems to be heading down that path again. >-Original Message- >From: Drsolly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:54 PM

[funsec] WTF Watch: EstDomains, Inc Takes Next Step in Combating Spam and Malware

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sure, I believe this. Why wouldn't I want to download and use software from Estdomains? [snip] Wilmington, DE (PRWEB) October 23, 2008 -- After several fruitful years on online services market, EstDomains, Inc (http://www.estdomains.com) is proud to

[funsec] Microsoft to rush out emergency Windows patch today

2008-10-23 Thread Juha-Matti Laurio
"Microsoft will rush out an emergency security patch for Windows users on Thursday. The company offered few details on why it was releasing the software update, which is rated critical for users of Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows Server 2003. A critical flaw is worrisome, however, because