Re: [funsec] Idiocy in America: Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested for Snapping Pictures of Amtrak Trains

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > The best weapon against a terrorist attack that Amtrak have is their > totally unpredictable schedule. > ...or the occasional derailment or collision - a semi-frequent occurrence here in Calif

Re: [funsec] Idiocy in America: Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested for Snapping Pictures of Amtrak Trains

2009-01-04 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
The best weapon against a terrorist attack that Amtrak have is their totally unpredictable schedule. >-Original Message- >From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] >On Behalf Of Paul Ferguson >Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:51 PM >To: funsec >Subject: [fun

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread der Mouse
> To use the real-life example, an unpatched Windows [...] Even if I > do not connect the machine to any network, the moment I open any > document that the machine itself did not create, I expose it to all > sorts of macros, scripts and embedded content which can hose or > exploit my applications.

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread Ben
In the extreme case, the machine on which you typed the response cannot be completely trusted due to at least the following: 1) Who installed your most recent BIOS update and what's in the microcode? 2) What sneaky/broken stuff was in your most recent OS/application install/update? 3) What applic

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread nick hatch
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > You can *hope* it's executing the instructions you want it to, > but "hope" is a poor security strategy. > > There is only one fix for this: wipe and reinstall. > Yes! I can't agree more. Once you run a Snort on a college resnet and work w

Re: [funsec] Idiocy in America: Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested for Snapping Pictures of Amtrak Trains

2009-01-04 Thread Bruce Ediger
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Paul Ferguson wrote: > People in positions of authority in this country have clearly lost their > freekin' minds. "Lost their freekin' minds" or "Created a polarizing issue, then used the resulting semantical fog to punish enemies and reward cronies"? Your choice. -- --NSA--

[funsec] Idiocy in America: Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested for Snapping Pictures of Amtrak Trains

2009-01-04 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos Miller: [snip] Armed with his Canon 5D and his new Lensbaby lens, photographer Duane Kerzic set out to win Amtrak's annual photo contest this week, hoping to win $1,000 in travel vouchers and have his photo published in Amtrak's annual calenda

[funsec] Uk Police allowed to hack?

2009-01-04 Thread RandallM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5439604.ece -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailin

Re: [funsec] Yelling at your hard drive (video)

2009-01-04 Thread RandallM
> > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:38:01 -0500 > From: "The Security Community" > Subject: Re: [funsec] Yelling at your hard drive (video) > To: funsec@linuxbox.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Yet another reason

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 04:27:03PM -0700, Ben Li wrote: > It would be great to have that as a problem, since that means the AV app > is running on the infected machine. If I can get my resolver on to the > infected machine, I can also get an AV app on to the machine. None of which matters. A c

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread rackow
I'm missing something in regards to DNSSEC and how it helps here. If you "own" the machine, you can replace the DNS server info used by that machine. Note you can also replace the public keys, etc that go along with these root zones or any subdomain. Yes, a little more complex, but not all that

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread David Harley
> Third, I'm not sure what you are describing is really a > problem that needs a solution. In other words, it sounds to > me like you are looking for a solution to a problem which > doesn't really need fixing (?)... Oh, I think it needs fixing. But even before considering how to fix it, in so f

Re: [funsec] idea

2009-01-04 Thread Remo Cornali
Rick Wesson ha scritto: > Ben, > > If you carry your own resolver libs with you AV application you might be able > to > mitigate this -- or at least detect when the HOSTS file has one of your > entries > in it. > > Modifications to the HOSTS file can be detected/prevented by WinPatrol. (www.w