Re: [funsec] Disabling Conficker "DNS Lookup Blocking"...

2009-03-31 Thread Richard Golodner
Paul F said tonight: "Trend Micro engineers have discovered that if you open a DOS shell window, and enter "net stop dnscache", infected systems can then reach the domains initially blocked by Conficker." Paul, nice work. You just saved a lot of people a good deal of aggravation by

Re: [funsec] question on scanning for conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread Jason Ross
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 21:13, RandallM wrote: > what is a common thing to notice about scanning for conflicker? One > site said a simple scan can disquish between clean and unclean ..: > > "Another option is to actively scan for Conficker machines. There is a > way to distinguish infected machine

Re: [funsec] Conficker business productivity loss

2009-03-31 Thread Blanchard_Michael
Not that I've seen yet. Any bets to what the media says? I can see it now... "5 billion dollar loss to companies overnight due to Conficker!" - Original Message - From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org To: funsec Sent: Tue Mar 31 22:38:31 2009 Subject: [funsec] Conficker business pro

Re: [funsec] Conficker business productivity loss

2009-03-31 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:38 PM, RandallM wrote: > any numbers calculated on loss to business over this yet? > Yes -- mine. Many hours I could be drinking beers instead of dealing with this. ;-) - - ferg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PG

Re: [funsec] who has a good site...

2009-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:16:23 +1000, Les Bell said: > The good news is that it's been April 1st for thirteen hours here now and > the sky hasn't fallen. Yet. oh-dark-thirty Friday night. You've been warned. ;) pgplnwAzj67wn.pgp Description: PGP signature _

Re: [funsec] question on scanning for conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread Toralv_Dirro
There is a minor difference in how a machine patched for real against MS08-067 and a machine infected with Conficker, patching the vulnerability partly react. All this just surfaced this weekend. On the site you quote you find all details and some python scripts implementing it. cheers, Tora

Re: [funsec] American Idol vs Conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:38 CDT, RandallM said: > ok folks, this is better then American Idol (even tho more tweets on > it so far), go to search.twitter.com and read some of the sad, scary, > funny responses to Conflicker! My favorite is all the people who don't realize it's already past frikkin

Re: [funsec] what the hell..

2009-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:48:44 CDT, RandallM said: > Conflicker is not beating American idol for tweets..what the hell? No, that's OK. Conficker is just another worm - we *don't* want more hype about Yet Another Damned Worm than a TV show. ;) pgpUpgL6Jn9bt.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [funsec] what the hell..

2009-03-31 Thread Chaim Rieger
Gadi is this your doing ? --Original Message-- From: RandallM Sender: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org To: funsec Subject: [funsec] what the hell.. Sent: Mar 31, 2009 18:48 Conflicker is not beating American idol for tweets..what the hell? -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System

Re: [funsec] what the hell..

2009-03-31 Thread Blanchard_Michael
Lol :-) The big test will be in the morning when users wake up and turn on their unpatched and infected systems... Mike B - Original Message - From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org To: funsec Sent: Tue Mar 31 21:48:44 2009 Subject: [funsec] what the hell.. Conflicker is not beating Am

[funsec] Disabling Conficker "DNS Lookup Blocking"...

2009-03-31 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just an FYI: Regarding the "DNS Lookup Prevention" in Conficker.C: http://mtc.sri.com/Conficker/addendumC/#dns-prevention Trend Micro engineers have discovered that if you open a DOS shell window, and enter "net stop dnscache", infected sysems can

[funsec] Conficker business productivity loss

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
any numbers calculated on loss to business over this yet? -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.

Re: [funsec] conficker "chatter" on twitter is heating up

2009-03-31 Thread Chaim Rieger
These are the people that share the roads with us on a daily basis. --Original Message-- From: Gadi Evron Sender: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org To: funsec Subject: [funsec] conficker "chatter" on twitter is heating up Sent: Mar 31, 2009 18:23 Examples: WeberRess: Be careful w/ this URL. T

Re: [funsec] who has a good site...

2009-03-31 Thread Les Bell
Rick Wesson wrote: >> confickerworkinggroup.org << That's been timing out for me, all morning (Oz time). Maybe the entire purpose of Conficker is to DDoS confickerworkinggroup.org? The good news is that it's been April 1st for thirteen hours here now and the sky hasn't fallen. Yet. Best, ---

[funsec] American Idol vs Conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
ok folks, this is better then American Idol (even tho more tweets on it so far), go to search.twitter.com and read some of the sad, scary, funny responses to Conflicker! -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for O

[funsec] what the hell..

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
Conflicker is not beating American idol for tweets..what the hell? -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing

Re: [funsec] conficker "chatter" on twitter is heating up

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
Gadi Evron wrote: > Examples: > > WeberRess: Be careful w/ this URL. This guys are trying to sell a > "#Conficker removal!!" Don't lose your money !h ttp://t inyurl.com/cs9bgz > > ElizabethMarie: @plamoni I hadn't heard a darn thing about #conficker > until I told someone to check something out

Re: [funsec] Prison officer sacked after befriending criminals on Facebook

2009-03-31 Thread Christopher
Keywords "had been"... I don't think the 'active' prisoners were on Facebook.. just previous prisoners, obviously previous guests of the prison he worked at otherwise I don't think it would merit a news article. Sorry, just had to note that before the thread got wy off kilter. On Tue, Mar 31

[funsec] bad informaiton!!!

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
funny..watching the updating on my search of conflicker entries on twitter search and one response was: "ktb33: Not worried about Conflicker, cause I normally don't open emails on my computer from people I don't know" So, the moral of this story for everyone DO NOT OPEN your email! oh what sha

[funsec] conficker "chatter" on twitter is heating up

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
Examples: WeberRess: Be careful w/ this URL. This guys are trying to sell a "#Conficker removal!!" Don't lose your money !h ttp://t inyurl.com/cs9bgz ElizabethMarie: @plamoni I hadn't heard a darn thing about #conficker until I told someone to check something out on the web and they said not fo

Re: [funsec] who has a good site...

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
Ok funsec twitters, do some twitting! or..how to make yourself famous tonight...TWITTER and watch you rating go up! :-) On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: > RandallM wrote: >> >> site that is good to follow the stories on conflicker? Gadi wrote back > > http://search.twitter.com

Re: [funsec] who has a good site...

2009-03-31 Thread Rick Wesson
RandallM wrote: > site that is good to follow the stories on conflicker? confickerworkinggroup.org -rick ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing l

[funsec] question on scanning for conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
what is a common thing to notice about scanning for conflicker? One site said a simple scan can disquish between clean and unclean ..: "Another option is to actively scan for Conficker machines. There is a way to distinguish infected machines from clean ones based on the error code for some specia

[funsec] who has a good site...

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
site that is good to follow the stories on conflicker? -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.

Re: [funsec] thoughts PS: Conflicker Removal Sale

2009-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:03:25 CDT, Thomas Raef said: > In your pre launch you let people know that you're only going to sell > this to the first 1,000 people then you're shutting it down (you never > give a valid reason why you're shutting it down after the first 1,000 > but you're trying to build

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:47:31 EDT, "O'Reirdan, Michael" said: > The honourable gentleman is using unparliamentarily language and should > withdraw immediately! Seconded. And while the gentleman is busy withdrawing, he can go take his pee break. pgp7OuFTvxwdp.pgp Description: PGP signature __

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:45:05 PDT, Alex Lanstein said: > No one knows, hence the mystery. My personal thoughts are that nothing > will happen on the 1st - I think they're a victim of their own success. We've seen incredibly noisy worms before - like the ones that were set to DDoS the White House

Re: [funsec] thoughts PS: Conflicker Removal Sale

2009-03-31 Thread Thomas Raef
No no no. You're doing that all wrong. In the Internet Marketing world (where IM means Internet Marketing), you'd have to setup a microsite, a Twitter account and "tweet" about bathroom breaks, cutting your toenails and other "personal" events to build up a following, then write some Google ads,

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:04:50 +0300 From: Gadi Evron > I propose a resolution to propose a motion to go on a pee break. Any > seconds? No, thanks, I'm full. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@vict

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Steve Pirk
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, der Mouse wrote: >> We are accustomed to see malware bent on financial gain, but what is >> the motivation for Conficker? The investment was made, the ammassed >> "firepower" is large, and no gain has yet been obtained. Could the >> owners of Conficker be outside of the usu

Re: [funsec] on PCI or if you are into that sort of thing...

2009-03-31 Thread Anton Chuvakin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Ahmad Elkhatib wrote: > And what would the findings of this hearing have on PCI ? > It actually just ended; I will post my (subjective, vendor-biased, pick-your-own-description-here, etc) summary later today, but the gist is that it ended in a bit of a fight betw

Re: [funsec] on PCI or if you are into that sort of thing...

2009-03-31 Thread Ahmad Elkhatib
And what would the findings of this hearing have on PCI ? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Anton Chuvakin wrote: > This is going on right now in live video here > http://hsc.house.gov/about/schedule.asp , BTW. > > "*Tuesday, March 31, 2009 @ 2pm* > *311 Cannon House Office Building* > > Subcomm

Re: [funsec] Prison officer sacked after befriending criminals on Facebook

2009-03-31 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:51:58 +0300 (EEST) From: Juha-Matti Laurio > "Seven of the "friends" had been in prison for murder, drugs offences, fraud, > affray and theft, according to The Sun newspaper." At least it was nothing serious, like spamming. > What h

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread phester
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, der Mouse wrote: > My own suspicion? It's a relatively ordinary botnet-in-prepraration, > just run by someone who's willing to let it lie fallow for a few months > in order to get better penetration before spinning it up. What if a worm was designed to propagate as widely a

[funsec] on PCI or if you are into that sort of thing...

2009-03-31 Thread Anton Chuvakin
This is going on right now in live video here http://hsc.house.gov/about/schedule.asp , BTW. "*Tuesday, March 31, 2009 @ 2pm* *311 Cannon House Office Building* Subcommittee on Emerging Threats, Cybersecurity, and Science and Technology Hearing *“Do the Payment Card Industry Data Standards Reduc

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread der Mouse
> We are accustomed to see malware bent on financial gain, but what is > the motivation for Conficker? The investment was made, the ammassed > "firepower" is large, and no gain has yet been obtained. Could the > owners of Conficker be outside of the usual criminal circles? Could > it be a milita

Re: [funsec] scanning with Nmap for Conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread nameless
RandallM wrote: > was anxious to follow the advice http://www.doxpara.com/ but can't > download the version http://nmap.org/download.html , get forbidden, > anyone not get this? > I got that a few hours ago, as well. -- Rob +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | _ | | ASC

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread David Harley
; Larry Seltzer > eWEEK.com Security Center Editor > http://security.eweek.com/ > http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ > Contributing Editor, PC Magazine > larry.selt...@ziffdavisenterprise.com > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > virus signature dat

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Alex Lanstein
(Whoops, didn't reply-all last time) No one knows, hence the mystery. My personal thoughts are that nothing will happen on the 1st - I think they're a victim of their own success. Too many eyes watching! You don't have this problem with some of the smaller botnets (not that Conficker is a botne

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Larry Seltzer
>> Are you sure you're not English? I like Bass Ale. How far does that get me? Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry.selt...@ziffdavisenterprise.com _

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread David Harley
> Harumpf! You did that very nicely, Larry. Are you sure you're not English? -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Small Blue-Green World ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funs

Re: [funsec] thoughts PS: Conflicker Removal Sale

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
P.S I do have for sale brand new tools to find, fight and destroy conflicker. REAL Cheap. Just let me know and I'll send you a PO box, you send money, I send tools...sound kewl? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:32 AM, RandallM wrote: > hahaha...thats funny right there...I think. > > I am just bore

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Remo Cornali
Gadi Evron ha scritto: > Stop Conficker FUD! Conficker started spreading in November 2008, and was remarkably successful. It has been in hiding for some 4 months, doing almost nothing. We are accustomed to see malware bent on financial gain, but what is the motivation for Conficker? The investment

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
hahaha...thats funny right there...I think. I am just bored and was wondering bout tools to use. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Harley wrote: >> Isn't the world dead yet? >> Oh wait, it's tomorrow. > > Depends on where you are. For all we know, the whole of Australasia/Pacific > has a

[funsec] scanning with Nmap for Conflicker

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
was anxious to follow the advice http://www.doxpara.com/ but can't download the version http://nmap.org/download.html , get forbidden, anyone not get this? -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread David Harley
> Isn't the world dead yet? > Oh wait, it's tomorrow. Depends on where you are. For all we know, the whole of Australasia/Pacific has already fallen off the internet. Nick? Nick? Are you still there? -- David Harley BA CISSP FBCS CITP Small Blue-Green World

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Dave Nelson
Gadi Evron wrote: > RandallM wrote: > >> anyone comment on this and your thoughts or knowledge on what can be >> done or what we can expect to be done? April 1rst hype or does anyone >> REALLY know? >> >> http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/936 >> >> > > Isn't the world dead yet? > Oh wait,

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
Gadi, you funny man. lets hope its really nothing huh. wouldn't infrastruction take down just be all the world needs right now? On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > RandallM wrote: >> >> anyone comment on this and your thoughts or knowledge on what can be >> done or what we can e

Re: [funsec] Prison officer sacked after befriending criminalson Facebook

2009-03-31 Thread David Harley
> I'm wondering how all those prisoners were able to send > him friend requests from the slammer anyway. > "Welcome to HMP Leicester, here's your number, and your > uniform, and your Facebook password and URL." They were probably all doing Open University degrees. -- David Harley BA CISSP F

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Martin Tomasek
RandallM napsal(a): > anyone comment on this and your thoughts or knowledge on what can be > done or what we can expect to be done? April 1rst hype or does anyone > REALLY know? > > http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/936 > > I think noone but authors really knows. It seems like someone is tryin

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread David M Chess
>anyone comment on this and your thoughts or knowledge on what can be >done or what we can expect to be done? April 1rst hype or does anyone >REALLY know? > >http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/936 I have no actual knowledge :) but it seems plausible enough; they found some piece of behavior, visi

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Larry Seltzer
>> You had me on suspended disbelief up to the point you called me honourable. Harumpf! Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larry.selt...@ziffdavisenterprise.com

Re: [funsec] Prison officer sacked after befriending criminals on Facebook

2009-03-31 Thread Richard Golodner
David Chess said : I'm wondering how all those prisoners were able to send him friend requests from the slammer anyway. "Welcome to HMP Leicester, here's your number, and your uniform, and your Facebook password and URL." After having spent some time working in a correctional fa

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread David Harley
. > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of > virus signature database 3977 (20090331) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > ___ Fun and M

Re: [funsec] Prison officer sacked after befriending criminals on Facebook

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: > "Nathan Singh was investigated because he was suspected of supplying mobile > phones > and other banned items to inmates at HMP Leicester. > > The probe failed to find any evidence of smuggling but discovered that the > 27-year-old had made friends > with 13 criminals

Re: [funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
RandallM wrote: > anyone comment on this and your thoughts or knowledge on what can be > done or what we can expect to be done? April 1rst hype or does anyone > REALLY know? > > http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/936 > Isn't the world dead yet? Oh wait, it's tomorrow. Stop Conficker FUD! Save a

Re: [funsec] Prison officer sacked after befriending criminals on Facebook

2009-03-31 Thread David M Chess
> What he was thinking?? Well, he claims to have been thinking: "God, more Facebook friend requests: accept accept accept who the hell is this? oh well, accept accept accept accept..." The stupidest possibility is: "I'm gonna add all my great friends down at the prison to my Facebook!" The ar

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread O'Reirdan, Michael
The honourable gentleman is using unparliamentarily language and should withdraw immediately! -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Gadi Evron Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:05 AM To: Juha-Matti Laurio Cc: funsec@linuxbox.or

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
O'Reirdan, Michael wrote: > The honourable gentleman is using unparliamentarily language and should > withdraw immediately! You had me on suspended disbelief up to the point you called me honourable. I propose a resolution where the British gentleman be banned from this house due to misleading a

Re: [funsec] funsec members twitter accounts

2009-03-31 Thread Yuhas, Steve
http://twitter.com/yuhas ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Zach Lanier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gadi Evron wrote: > Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: >> Political blog Dizzy Thinks first reported that a memo (below) sent out to >> parliamentary IT network users >> on Tuesday night warned that Conficker had disrupted the operation of >> parliamentary sys

[funsec] thoughts

2009-03-31 Thread RandallM
anyone comment on this and your thoughts or knowledge on what can be done or what we can expect to be done? April 1rst hype or does anyone REALLY know? http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/936 -- been great, thanks Big R a.k.a System ___ Fun and Misc sec

[funsec] Gmail ticker economic suggestion

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
"Unneeded printouts can be cut and stapled to make notepads." Can someone say "Garbage Divers?" :) Anybody locks note-pads these days? Gadi. ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec

Re: [funsec] Leaked memo says Conficker pwns UK Parliament

2009-03-31 Thread Gadi Evron
Juha-Matti Laurio wrote: > Political blog Dizzy Thinks first reported that a memo (below) sent out to > parliamentary IT network users > on Tuesday night warned that Conficker had disrupted the operation of > parliamentary systems." > --clip-- I propose a resolution to propose a motion to go on