Re: [funsec] Bank security

2011-03-04 Thread michael.blanchard
boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Drsolly Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:45 AM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] Bank security I was called by my bank recently, to discuss a complaint I'd made. After a few minutes talking, my called decided she needed to do a security check. S

[funsec] Bank security

2011-03-04 Thread Drsolly
I was called by my bank recently, to discuss a complaint I'd made. After a few minutes talking, my called decided she needed to do a security check. So she asked me for part of my sort code, part of my account number, part of my mother's maiden and, and my birth date. After we'd finished dealin

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-10 Thread Dave Paris
::sniff:: I love happy endings. :) On 3/10/2010 1:24 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:08:37PM -0500, Joel Esler wrote: >> Okay, so then what they do!? You've got me on the edge of my seat here. > > Well, at that very moment an iceberg the size of Rhode Island broke > off in

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-09 Thread Joel Esler
On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:08:37PM -0500, Joel Esler wrote: >> Okay, so then what they do!? You've got me on the edge of my seat here. > > Well, at that very moment an iceberg the size of Rhode Island broke > off into the southern Atlantic, sendi

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-09 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 11:08:37PM -0500, Joel Esler wrote: > Okay, so then what they do!? You've got me on the edge of my seat here. Well, at that very moment an iceberg the size of Rhode Island broke off into the southern Atlantic, sending a wave careening into the side of an ocean liner full o

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-09 Thread Mike Preston
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just had a backup of a PCI DSS DB uploaded via anon FTP for a server I'm working on. Can't get much more clueless than that considering that they had: - - a valid login to an alternative secure sftp server. - - both my and their own GPG credentials

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread Joel Esler
On Mar 8, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > Recent similar experience: was given a pair of running shorts as a gift. > They didn't fit. Took them back to $BIGOUTDOORSTORE along with a > printout of the receipt from their online store. Did not ask for > cash refund. Did not ask for refund

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread chaim . rieger
Just had a gov agency send me an email that contained private and personal info (not mine) Called em on it and they went oops Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread chaim . rieger
Just had a gov agency send me an email that contained private and personal info (not mine) Called em on it and they went oops Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
in perfunctory, and mostly useless, "check the box" security. > -Original Message- > From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] > On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:01 PM > To: funsec@linuxbox.org > Subject

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
olly; funsec@linuxbox.org > Subject: Re: [funsec] Bank security > > What a shame. Things like this would never happen in America. > > LJS > > -Original Message- > From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] > On Behalf Of Drsolly

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Recent similar experience: was given a pair of running shorts as a gift. They didn't fit. Took them back to $BIGOUTDOORSTORE along with a printout of the receipt from their online store. Did not ask for cash refund. Did not ask for refund on the card that was used for the purchase. Asked for a

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread Larry Seltzer
What a shame. Things like this would never happen in America. LJS -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Drsolly Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:07 AM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] Bank security I just got

[funsec] Bank security

2010-03-08 Thread Drsolly
I just got called by my bank. And then they wanted some information so they could be sure it was me. Why, when it was them that callked me? Well, it's just they way they do it. Naturally, I refused to give out any info to someone who had just called me, and I told them that I'd call them back,

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-23 Thread Rob Thompson
Rich Kulawiec wrote: > About a year ago, I went several rounds with a local financial institution > while trying to deposit money into an account. They wanted a thumbprint > in order to verify that fraud wasn't being attempted, and were utterly > impervious to the point that it was a DEPOSIT, not

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-23 Thread Drsolly
I think the way it works is this. You have the people who actually understand A) security and B) how computers work and C) how email works and D) how the internet works and E) the things that people get up to and F) the stupid things that users do. That's a small number of people. Me, of course

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-23 Thread Drsolly
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, Peter Evans wrote: > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:28:31AM -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > > Well, if they used PKI, that would be true (that the e-mail could be > > authenticated whereas the fax cannot). > > > >Apparently, anyone can send an fax, but if an email has me in the

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-23 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 09:43:55AM +0100, Drsolly wrote: > And this is a bank. > > And we wonder why there's fraud ... About a year ago, I went several rounds with a local financial institution while trying to deposit money into an account. They wanted a thumbprint in order to verify that fraud

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Drsolly
PC Magazine > larry_selt...@ziffdavis.com > http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Drsolly [mailto:drsol...@drsolly.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:16 PM > To: Tomas L. Byrnes > Cc: Larry Seltzer; funsec@linuxbox.or

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Drsolly
Oh, I have several others I could show you. That was just the most recent, and was a bit breathtaking. On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Rob Thompson wrote: > Drsolly wrote: > > I sent my bank a fax to tell them about my change of address. They sent a > > fax back, asking me to phone them. The lady I spoke

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Larry Seltzer
com] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:16 PM To: Tomas L. Byrnes Cc: Larry Seltzer; funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: RE: [funsec] Bank security My bank thinks that PKI is a brand of peanut. They just wanted a plain, vanilla email. And I sent them one. And they're happy. Hey - the email says it came f

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Drsolly
truth that e-Mail is slightly more verifiable than fax. > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] > >On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer > >Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:19 AM > >To: Drsoll

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Drsolly
Ask your bank what their change of address procedure is, and whether they'll accept an emailed request. I'm reminded of a Douglas Adams adventure game, in which the object of the game was to notify your bank of your change of address. On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Caveguy wrote: > Which bank was this

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Rob Thompson
Drsolly wrote: > I sent my bank a fax to tell them about my change of address. They sent a > fax back, asking me to phone them. The lady I spoke to, said that they > couldn't do it from a fax, they needed an email. I asked why; she said > that it was so they could be sure it came from me. > > A

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:43:55 +0100 (BST) From: Drsolly > And this is a bank. Did you check the caller-ID, to be sure? :-) == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercri

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
hat e-Mail is slightly more verifiable than fax. >-Original Message- >From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] >On Behalf Of Larry Seltzer >Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:19 AM >To: Drsolly; funsec@linuxbox.org >Subject: Re: [funsec

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP
m: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] > On Behalf Of Drsolly > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:44 AM > To: funsec@linuxbox.org > Subject: [funsec] Bank security > > I sent my bank a fax to tell them about my change of address. They sent > a > fax ba

Re: [funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Larry Seltzer
@linuxbox.org Subject: [funsec] Bank security I sent my bank a fax to tell them about my change of address. They sent a fax back, asking me to phone them. The lady I spoke to, said that they couldn't do it from a fax, they needed an email. I asked why; she said that it was so they could be su

[funsec] Bank security

2009-07-22 Thread Drsolly
I sent my bank a fax to tell them about my change of address. They sent a fax back, asking me to phone them. The lady I spoke to, said that they couldn't do it from a fax, they needed an email. I asked why; she said that it was so they could be sure it came from me. Apparently, anyone can send