[funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Alex Eckelberry
Australian Technicians Develop Virus Proof Computers http://www.seekingmedia.com.au/news.php?newsid=857&g=-1 ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and op

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Drsolly
I met one of those about 12 years ago. The vendor assured me it was virus proof. I showed him a floppy disk, and asked if I could install the software from it, on his computer. He asked me "Is there a virus on it?" "Why are you asking me that question," I asked. On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Alex Eckelb

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread chris
--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > Australian Technicians Develop Virus Proof Computers http://virusproofcomputers.com.au/how_it_works.htm "Sometimes it's not as important to know HOW it works, just that it DOES work!" Absolute, complete, unvarnished: snake oil. "Read crazy joke

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Alex Eckelberry
I'm tempted to buy one of these just to infect the hell out of it. Would make a fun blog post. Alex -Original Message- From: ch...@blask.org [mailto:ch...@blask.org] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:20 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org; Alex Eckelberry Subject: Re: [funsec] Dang

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Hubbard, Dan
pickup from our Sydney factory. --- -Original Message- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of ch...@blask.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:20 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org; Alex Eckelberry Subject: Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Les Bell
ch...@blask.org wrote: >> "Sometimes it's not as important to know HOW it works, just that it DOES work!" << Looks remarkably like a GNOME desktop to me, probably Ubuntu. I do believe they have invented a dual-boot Linux/Windows system. Awesome. Innovative as hell. They're probably just trying

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Peter Kosinar
> I met one of those about 12 years ago. The vendor assured me it was virus > proof. I showed him a floppy disk, and asked if I could install the > software from it, on his computer. He asked me "Is there a virus on it?" What a simple and elegant solution -- In order to keep your computer virus-f

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread chris
--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Les Bell wrote: > I do believe they have invented a dual-boot Linux/Windows > system. Awesome. > Innovative as hell. It brings out all my worst proletarian instincts. Think you could slip by there and replace the image with something malignant? There's only what, like

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:12:12 EST, Alex Eckelberry said: > http://www.seekingmedia.com.au/news.php?newsid=857&g=-1 "Once a user has logged on to their computer, they are presented with two operating zones. Zone 1 has been configured for virus-free email and Internet surfing, allowing users to dow

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Gadi Evron
Peter Evans wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:20:26PM -0800, ch...@blask.org wrote: >> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Alex Eckelberry wrote: >>> Australian Technicians Develop Virus Proof Computers >> http://virusproofcomputers.com.au/how_it_works.htm > >> Absolute, complete, unvarnished: snake oil.

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Gadi Evron
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:12:12 EST, Alex Eckelberry said: > >> http://www.seekingmedia.com.au/news.php?newsid=857&g=-1 > > "Once a user has logged on to their computer, they are presented with two > operating zones. > > Zone 1 has been configured for virus-free ema

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:01:08 +0200, Gadi Evron said: > Virtualization by compartmentalization? I haven't heard of Biba. You haven't? You're deserving of getting smacked about with a large trout. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biba_model http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell-LaPadula_Model (And in

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-12 Thread Gadi Evron
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:01:08 +0200, Gadi Evron said: > >> Virtualization by compartmentalization? I haven't heard of Biba. > > You haven't? You're deserving of getting smacked about with a large trout. ;) > And indeed, I admit my lack of knowledge. Thanks for t

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-13 Thread Nick FitzGerald
Alex Eckelberry wrote: > Australian Technicians Develop Virus Proof Computers > > http://www.seekingmedia.com.au/news.php?newsid=857&g=-1 Looking at the specs, here: http://virusproofcomputers.com.au/how_it_works.htm it seems that the "virus free warranty": 5 years virus free warranty*

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-13 Thread chris
--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Nick FitzGerald wrote: > um -- "terms and conditions", which are not, as far as > I can find, publicly posted on their web page. Because this guy is incredibly lame. I want to drop a rock on his shop from space, but with Water on the Moon maybe we can just hit it with

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-13 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:12:12 -0500 From: Alex Eckelberry Subject:[funsec] Dangerous promises... > Australian Technicians Develop Virus Proof Computers Hey, it's easy. All you have to do is use Harvard architecture.

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-14 Thread Drsolly
n hardware! On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote: > Date sent:Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:12:12 -0500 > From: Alex Eckelberry > Subject: [funsec] Dangerous promises... > > > Australian Technicians Develo

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-14 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:57:42 + (GMT) From: Drsolly > I met one of those about 12 years ago. The vendor assured me it was virus > proof. I showed him a floppy disk, and asked if I could install the > software from it, on his computer. He asked me "Is th

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-14 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:01:10 -0800 From: "Hubbard, Dan" > My favorite is the guarantee. Basically they are saying if your get infected > for > no charge they will reformat your machine and start from an original image. There was a CISSP prep guide that cam

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-16 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:20:26PM -0800, ch...@blask.org wrote: > Absolute, complete, unvarnished: snake oil. I'm hearing Tom Waits' "Step Right Up" playing in the background. ;-) ---Rsk ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linux

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-16 Thread robert_mcmillan
Anybody know anything about this? http://www.inzerosystems.com/ InZero Systems has developed revolutionary new PC hardware that walls off intrusions and viruses, while allowing full access to the outside world. You are finally free to safely go anywhere you want. InZero provides a gateway to secu

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-17 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:32:34 -0800 From: robert_mcmil...@idg.com > Anybody know anything about this? > > http://www.inzerosystems.com/ Sounds like a centrally managed firewall system. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl.

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Gadi Evron
yan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah >> >> Sent: 11/18/09 08:37 am >> >> To: funsec@linuxbox.org >> >> Subject: Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises... >> >> >> >> Date sent: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:32:34 -0800 >> From: robert_mcmil...@idg.

Re: [funsec] Dangerous promises...

2009-11-18 Thread Markos Grokus
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