Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-07-05 Thread Gadi Evron
Mike Cooper wrote: > I met a guy at RSA this year that this same thing happened to involving > London (Bryan Rutberg). His daughter was the first to catch on, and they > tried to warn people using his wife's and daughter's accounts... who > were promptly "de-friended". Other attempts were reacte

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-07-05 Thread Mike Cooper
I met a guy at RSA this year that this same thing happened to involving London (Bryan Rutberg). His daughter was the first to catch on, and they tried to warn people using his wife's and daughter's accounts... who were promptly "de-friended". Other attempts were reacted to very quickly and

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread mark seiden-via mac
it's interesting that they're going through the trouble of reading people's email enough so they can add verisimilitude to an otherwise lackluster narrative. i don't think these are bots. the key questions they have to get over are why they can't be reached by phone and why they can't recei

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread G. D. Fuego
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > der Mouse wrote: > http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to resort to

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Graham
A lot of people haven't dealt with the "live chat" side of the 419 crew, but they've sorta been working scams via chat already. The common TTY (hearing-impaired communication by typing over phone) services all have chat to voice gateways (usually handled by a real person transcribing someone's voi

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread quispiam lepidus
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: > Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook > account which they took over: > > http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html > > > -- > Gadi Evron, > g...@linuxbox.org. > > Blog: http://gevron.livejou

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Martin Tomasek
Gadi Evron napsal(a): IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to resort to out-of-band contacts to be sure it wasn't the person it was pretending to be. The more I think about it the less likely it seems th

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Gadi Evron
der Mouse wrote: http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html >>> IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test >>> well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to resort to >>> out-of-band contacts to be sure it wasn't the person it was >>

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Martin Tomasek
Adriel T. Desautels napsal(a): > NIGERIA? What are you talking about??!?!? People NEVER scam ANYONE > from Nigeria! > > :P Your reply makes me wondering how many bots are on this list already. :-) -- Martin Tomasek ___ Fun and Misc security discuss

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gadi Evron wrote: > > The more I think about it the less likely it seems that it was a bot, > however, what else could it be for such a large-scale scam? I would think that you had a real human on the other end of the net. Let's face it, labor is VE

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Adriel T. Desautels
NIGERIA? What are you talking about??!?!? People NEVER scam ANYONE from Nigeria! :P On Jun 22, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Martin Tomasek wrote: > I googled it and it seems that the bot came from nigeria: > >> Host name: 41.191.108.130 >> IP address: 41.191.108.130 >> Location: NIGERIA > > http://me

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Col
Same thing happened to a friend this morning, replace London for Wales though. Funny thing was they said they were there with their husband and baby, when the husband was sitting behind the person they were trying to scam. The scammer instantly logged off when this came to light. So I don't think

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Graham
It talked to Gadi for an hour it's gotta be a bot. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Imri Goldberg wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM, der Mouse wrote: > >> IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test >> well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to res

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Gadi Evron
Imri Goldberg wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM, der Mouse > wrote: > > IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test > well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to resort to > out-of-band contacts to be su

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread der Mouse
>>> http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html >> IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test >> well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to resort to >> out-of-band contacts to be sure it wasn't the person it was >> pretending to be. >

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Gadi Evron
der Mouse wrote: >> Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook >> account which they took over: > >> http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html > > IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test > well enough that after an hou

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Imri Goldberg
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:47 PM, der Mouse wrote: > IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test > well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to resort to > out-of-band contacts to be sure it wasn't the person it was pretending > to be. > How do you know it wa

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Larry Seltzer
Of Martin Tomasek Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 6:05 AM To: funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money! Gadi Evron napsal(a): > Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook > account which they took over: > > http://darkreadin

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Martin Tomasek
I googled it and it seems that the bot came from nigeria: Host name: 41.191.108.130 IP address: 41.191.108.130 Location: NIGERIA http://mengwong.livejournal.com/73172.html -- Martin Tomasek ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https:/

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Martin Tomasek
Gadi Evron napsal(a): > Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook > account which they took over: > > http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html > This bot looks interesting. I'd like to reverse it. -- Martin Tomasek

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread der Mouse
> Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook > account which they took over: > http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html IMO the real news here is that a bot managed to pass the Turing test well enough that after an hour talking with it you had to

Re: [funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread security curmudgeon
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Gadi Evron wrote: : Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook : account which they took over: : : http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html Can I pay money for them to throw you in the gap? ___

[funsec] I'm stranded in London! Send money!

2009-06-22 Thread Gadi Evron
Here's a story of someone trying to scam me from a friend's facebook account which they took over: http://darkreading.com/blog/archives/2009/06/facebook_419_im.html -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/ ___ Fun and M