[funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money ...

2012-03-29 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/nl/pressroom/content/20120326IPR41843/ht ml/Hacking-IT-systems-to-become-a-criminal-offence == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) rsl...@vcn.bc.ca sl...@victoria.tc.ca rsl...@computercrime.org Why am I doing this? Is this the

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money ...

2012-03-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:06:21 -0700, "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" said: > http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/nl/pressroom/content/20120326IPR41843/html/Hacking-IT-systems-to-become-a-criminal-offence So.. what's the difference between "attack tools" and a good pentester's toolki

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money ...

2012-03-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:06:21 -0700, "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & > Hannah" said: >> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/nl/pressroom/content/20120326IPR41843/html/Hacking-IT-systems-to-become-a-criminal-offence > > So.. what's the difference bet

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-03-30 Thread Vic Vandal
The subject line above and this link below were posted, without the correct response: >>http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/nl/pressroom/content/20120326IPR41843/html/Hacking-IT-systems-to-become-a-criminal-offence "Ethical" (the "E" in CEH) hackers would only attack systems that belong to orga

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-03-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:46:04 -0700, Vic Vandal said: > "Ethical" (the "E" in CEH) hackers would only attack systems that belong to > organizations that gave them written permission to do so. The new laws would > be > inapplicable to that scenario. >From the fine article's first paragraph: "Poss

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-03-30 Thread Blue Boar
I'm assuming Germany provides an example as to how tools will be treated. BB On 3/30/12 1:04 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:46:04 -0700, Vic Vandal said: >> "Ethical" (the "E" in CEH) hackers would only attack systems that belong to >>

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-03-30 Thread Vic Vandal
g CEH, which was loosely used as a reference in this thread's start by someone other than myself. That acronym and cert is just along for the ride here, but could be dropped from the thread. -Vic - Original Message - From: "Valdis Kletnieks" To: "Vic Vandal"

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-03-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:05:44 -0700, Vic Vandal said: > It's not illegal to possess a tire iron (as mentioned in the email below), but > that makes a decent segue to a similar point. It is a crime in the state > where > I live to have lockpicking tools in your possession - if you're illegally > br

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-03-31 Thread Remo Cornali
On 31/03/2012 04:46, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: Code of Virginia - Section 18.2-94 - Possession of burglarious tools, etc.If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he shall be guilty of a

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-04-02 Thread michael.blanchard
1, 2012 4:34 AM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money On 31/03/2012 04:46, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu<mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu> wrote: Code of Virginia - Section 18.2-94 - Possession of burglarious tools, etc.If

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-04-02 Thread David M Chess
> That sounds like unadulterated "Comma 22" to me: > possession of burglarious tools is a felony *only* with intent to commit burglary, > *but* the possession of burglarious tools shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary. Well, you have to unpack "prima facie" a little there

Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money

2012-04-02 Thread michael.blanchard
ar you got at Lowes :-( Mike B From: David M Chess [mailto:ch...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:41 PM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] OK, all you EU guys who took the CEH just wasted your money > That sounds like unadulterated "Comma 22" to me: > posse