Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-10-01 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 02:42:49PM -0400, charlie derr wrote: DRM is the scourge of the earth and it's so embedded into the OS [...] I refer to any OS with embedded DRM as pre-compromised at the factory. ---Rsk ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-10-01 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:41:50AM -0700, ch...@blask.org wrote: Same with hybrids - lower emissions and may be nice cars (I test drove a Prius and was surprised that I really liked it) - but if you see one that has a I Heart teh Environment bumper sticker you should be allowed to ram it

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-10-01 Thread chris
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: At the opposite end of the scale, I was passed on the highway by a bright yellow Hummer monstrosity with a Drill Baby Drill bumper sticker. Unfortunately, I was all out of tactical nuclear weapons at the time, or I would have adjusted

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Vixie
ch...@blask.org writes: I'd bet $12 that Prius and Hummer owners are statistically more likely to own Macs. lots of bicyclists and VW pseudobug owners among my local Mac owners. -- Paul Vixie KI6YSY ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts.

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread chris
--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Peter Evans pe...@ixp.jp wrote:     Totally! I approve! Having recently watched the Smug Storm episode of South Park with my kids and explained to them the incredible evil of smugness, my nine-year-old daughter now thumbs-ups every hybrid she sees (good fer you!) and

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread Paul M. Moriarty
Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want. For me, that's worth paying a premium. Yeah, yeah, nitpick about Mach, blah, blah, blah... Are you at risk doing stupid things with a Mac? Sure, just like you're

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread Alex Eckelberry
[mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Paul M. Moriarty Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:50 PM To: ch...@blask.org Cc: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris? Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread chris
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Paul M. Moriarty p...@igtc.com wrote: Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want.  For me, that's worth paying a premium. Yeah, yeah, nitpick about Mach, blah, blah, blah... Are you at

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread charlie derr
Alex Eckelberry wrote: Macs rock. It's hard to say bad things about them, snippage Maybe so, but I love a challenge, so please let me try :-] DRM is the scourge of the earth and it's so embedded into the OS (with all kinds of shady marketing to try to make itunes as ubiquitous as possible)

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread David Lodge
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:49:40 +0100, Paul M. Moriarty p...@igtc.com wrote: Simply put, a Mac is a UNIX box with a great GUI that runs most commercial, off-the-shelf software that people actually want. For me, that's worth paying a premium. Great GUI? So explain the stuck in the 80s concept of

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread Paul M. Moriarty
I used Gnome as my primary desktop for years. The term lipstick on a pig springs to mind. When I finally decided I didn't want to be a computer hobbyist any more, i.e., constantly tinkering to get my machine to work just so, that's when I bought a Mac. On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:44 PM, David

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-30 Thread chris
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, charlie derr cd...@simons-rock.edu wrote: Alex Eckelberry wrote: Macs rock.  It's hard to say bad things about them, Oh, I dunno. Let me try a few: DRM is the scourge of the earth and it's so embedded into You touched right at the core of my dissatisfaction. [ahem]

[funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-29 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah
A network of Russian malware writers and spammers paid hackers 43 cents for each Mac machine they infected with bogus video software, a sign that Macs have become attack targets. Mac users, who often dismiss security as a problem only for people running Microsoft’s Windows, are increasingly at

Re: [funsec] What was that about hubris?

2009-09-29 Thread chris
--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon Hannah rmsl...@shaw.ca wrote: Mac users, who often dismiss security as a problem only for people running Microsoft’s Windows, are increasingly at risk on the Web.    I'm enjoying this way too much. Does that make me a bad person?