03, 1999 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Re:democracy
>Thomas:
>
>I gently beg to differ Victor. For reasons you have cited, the electorate
>cannot change the house rules of the governance gambling casino - it is
>always going to be weighted in favour of the house. To really make change
>
Thomas:
This is a good little essay and touch's on some very important observations.
Victor wrote:
>As I recall, this thread got started with a comment about many of the
voters
>seeming to be neither intelligent nor well-informed.I'm sure from many of
>his postings that Ed Weick did not mean th
At 04:45 PM 1/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Victor Milne:
>
>>As I recall, this thread got started with a comment about many of the
>voters
>>seeming to be neither intelligent nor well-informed. I'm sure from many of
>>his postings that Ed Weick did not mean this in an elitist sense.
>
>
>No, I didn't
rnance.
arthur cordell
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From: Victor Milne
To: futurework
Subject: Re:democracy
Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 11:27AM
As I recall, this thread got started with a comment about many of the voters
seeming to be neither intelligent nor well-informed. I'm sure from many of
his postings t
Victor Milne:
>As I recall, this thread got started with a comment about many of the
voters
>seeming to be neither intelligent nor well-informed. I'm sure from many of
>his postings that Ed Weick did not mean this in an elitist sense.
No, I didn't mean it in an elitist sense. I meant it very m
As I recall, this thread got started with a comment about many of the voters
seeming to be neither intelligent nor well-informed. I'm sure from many of
his postings that Ed Weick did not mean this in an elitist sense.
I don't think lack of intelligence is really the problem. I also do not
think t
>>I pointed out (often), that there are fundamental conditions for
>>a proper working democracy, and these conditions did not
>>exist in our history so far.
>Then the reasonable observer would conclude they never will.
What about universal literacy? What about
the technology to make information
You are very selective in your reading matter, Jay.
I pointed out (often), that there are fundamental conditions for
a proper working democracy, and these conditions did not
exist in our history so far. However now we have the capacity
to facilitate all the necessary conditions Anyone, who disre
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From: Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I pointed out (often), that there are fundamental conditions for
>a proper working democracy, and these conditions did not
>exist in our history so far.
Then the reasonable observer would conclude they never will.
Jay
Ed W.:
...
Somehow I'm not at all surprised that this is your point of view. But then
how is merit to be determined? Testing and experience, you say, but who
will assess this? Surely an intelligent and informed public should have
something to do with it. But, I suppose you would then argue tha
Jay:
...
As it has turned out, modern evolutionary scientists have found that the
Founding Fathers were right: true democracy won?t work. Natural selection
and genetic development created a human tendency for dominance, submission,
hierarchy, and obedience, as opposed to equality and democracy. As
- Original Message -
From: Eva Durant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Natural selection and genetic development works in a
>much larger time scale than social depelopment that
>may change human hierarchical, obedient etc behaviour
>in less than a generation and such socially
>conditioned behaviour f
The government is there to manage the state, the
state is there to defend the status quo of the ruling
economic powers. In this setup don't hope for
any "governance" whether nominally democratic or not,
to provide service to "all citizens". Its utopistic and naive...
Just like Soros's book as re
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