Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Lawry, On this bright and sunny morning I'll return to the tail-end of your posting (without re-naming the thread this time!) because it contains a couple of very important points. 1. According to Prof Bernard Lewis (What went wrong?), the principal enemy of fundamentalist Islam in most

RE: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
Below is half of an article appearing in today's NYT about India and Pakistan that deals with the issues of socio-cultural and religious expression that ties in nicely, I believe, with the current FW discussion re: the role of fundamentalism and oppressive regimes in the Middle East. Friedman

Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Jan Matthieu
Some comments lower in the post - Original Message - From: Keith Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries Hi Lawry, On this bright and sunny morning I'll return

Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread RMo12345
If I may be so bold as to jump into this discourse. It does seem obvious that we are on the verge of financial disaster here in the US. There is no decent safety net to take up the slack. As areas of the country are reeling from the collapse of the telecoms, the airways, and previously the dot.

Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Harry Pollard
Keith, My impression has been that in the past, the Saudis have provided much, or all, of the living costs for their people from oil revenue. Now, it has changed, and their welfare state is not so nearly accommodating. This may be why the mob is mumbling. If this is so, why? Maybe their oil

Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Hudson
Harry, At 09:05 14/08/02 -0700, you wrote: Keith, My impression has been that in the past, the Saudis have provided much, or all, of the living costs for their people from oil revenue. Now, it has changed, and their welfare state is not so nearly accommodating. This may be why the mob is

Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread William B Ward
The thing that most people forget is that the stock boom was the result of saving money by the boomers. Now that they are starting to retire, they are pulling the money out and the speculation [and high P/E rations] will slack off. They are now putting their money into real estate so that it

RE: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
Greetings, Robert, I am interested in your further ideas for a 'new plan.' Can you explore that a bit for us? It is entirely true that one's economic viability in the US now rests on the ability to do several things, and to learn fast. This implies a quite different cognitive and cultural

RE: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-14 Thread Karen Watters Cole
SAUDI ARABIA: Friend or Foe? The Politics of Anger vs the Politics of Fear? A Marriage of Convenience? Headed for Divorce? http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec02/saudi_8-14.html RS YI Excerpt: RAY SUAREZ: Well, what's behind that turning away from longstanding alliance?

SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-13 Thread Lawrence de Bivort
It is a sad reality that due to its political nature there is in Washington both 'analysis' and 'spin'. The latter seeks to look like the former, but its purpose is to affect policy. Truth and balance are not a necessary component of spin: it is part of the mammoth lobbying effort that permeates

Rand surely not spin! (was Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-13 Thread Keith Hudson
Hi Lawry, I don't at all mind your changing the name of the thread -- so much so that I'm going to change it again for the purpose of this posting, confining myself to the first paragraph of yours only! If she-who-must-be-obeyed does not call me out of my den to keep her company for the

Re: SA and Work in oil-rich countries

2002-08-13 Thread Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipsnip debivort Nothing wrong with burkas, Keith -- except that the Western feminist movement has labelled them oppressive. I haven't heard any feminist say 'Ops, maybe we were wrong. Maybe our Afghani sisters really DO like to wear burkas,