Dominik Vogt wrote:
> A current discussion with the gaim developers about some gaim
> mis-feature has made me think about abandoning EWMH support
> completely. In my eyes, the only usefull message it has is the
> FULLSCREEN stuff. Everything else is just causing trouble.
>
> Reasoning:
>
> * Most of the EWMH features are intended to mix applications
> written for the different desktop environments (DE), e.g. a KDE
> pager with a GNOME taskbar.
>
This would be more of a reason to keep the EWMH features, as FVWM
doesn't belong to either DE, and therefore should be able to support any
application a user wants to use.
> * If fvwm is not running under a DE, these features are utterly
> useless.
> * If running under a DE, using the DE's pager, taskbar, etc. is
> not necessary as fvwm has a rich set of these modules.
> * An increasing number of applications mis-uses the EWMH hints to
> do funny things.
>
Agreed.
> * Most users have *no* chance to control such appications. For
> example, the problem with SkipMapping and gaim that led to the
> discussion on the gaim list. It took the user several days to
> figure out the problem and had to ask the fvwm developers for
> help.
>
> All this leads me to the conclusion that the EWMH spec (at least
> the client message part) offers very little benefits but causes a
> huge amount of trouble. It is simply not worth the effort.
>
> I vote for abandoning EWMH support (at least the client messages).
>
Personally think that abandoning support probably wouldn't make too much
of a difference, however if it's about choice and flexibility we should
attempt to support as much as possible.
> Opinions?
>
> Ciao
>
> Dominik ^_^ ^_^
>
> --
> Dominik Vogt, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ahmed
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