RE: [fw-general] Re: ZF2 Di + EventManager

2012-03-20 Thread Gerard -
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:29:30 -0700 > From: alex.far...@gmail.com > To: fw-general@lists.zend.com > Subject: [fw-general] Re: ZF2 Di + EventManager > > Beside the fact that some event handlers (together with their dependencies) > may never need to be loaded for the current application ru

Re: [fw-general] advice needed from Matthew

2012-03-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- trycatchgo wrote (on Sunday, 11 March 2012, 06:52 AM -0700): > I just would like to know whether I can use ZF2 documentation for building a > web based tutorial site on ZF2. I just don't want to copy the entire > documentation, need to use some of the information (few paragraphs) or some > line

Re: [fw-general] Re: ZF2 Di + EventManager

2012-03-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- ghola wrote (on Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 08:29 AM -0700): > Beside the fact that some event handlers (together with their dependencies) > may never need to be loaded for the current application run (so why > instantiate if they're never used? ... one of the DI advantages is > instantiation on de

[fw-general] Re: [zf-contributors] ZF2 EventManager now in ZF1 trunk

2012-03-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Greg wrote (on Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 09:29 AM -0500): > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > wrote: > > I've fielded a large number of requests > > from ZF1 users who would like the functionality for their ZF1 > > applications -- no more, no less. > > I appreciate that

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework - Stick with PHP slowest? or Make Zend framework as wrapper for Go language?

2012-03-20 Thread Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga
Hahaha, indeed, but I was trying to create a homebrew formula and patch some stuff to put it to work, but, maybe I'll work on this the next weekend :). -- Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga http://juan.im Twitter: @nebiros GTalk: nebi...@gmail.com Skype: jfasaldarriaga On Tuesday, March 20, 201

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework - Stick with PHP slowest? or Make Zend framework as wrapper for Go language?

2012-03-20 Thread Christian Soronellas
Because there is no support for OS X. Maybe with a virtualbox ... ? :D Regards, Christian. 2012/3/20 Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga > I try to compile it in OSX Lion, but no luck :S. > > -- > Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga > http://juan.im > Twitter: @nebiros > GTalk: nebi...@gmail.com > Sky

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework - Stick with PHP slowest? or Make Zend framework as wrapper for Go language?

2012-03-20 Thread Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga
I try to compile it in OSX Lion, but no luck :S. -- Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga http://juan.im Twitter: @nebiros GTalk: nebi...@gmail.com Skype: jfasaldarriaga On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Christian Soronellas wrote: > https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php > > Good luck! :)

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework - Stick with PHP slowest? or Make Zend framework as wrapper for Go language?

2012-03-20 Thread Christian Soronellas
*https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php* Good luck! :) Christian. 2012/3/20 Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga > Nice initiative :D, I was thinking to do something with ZF similar to this > article: > http://areyoufuckingcoding.me/2012/02/27/go-powered-webservices-with-rails/, > let Go do all th

[fw-general] Re: ZF2 Di + EventManager

2012-03-20 Thread ghola
Beside the fact that some event handlers (together with their dependencies) may never need to be loaded for the current application run (so why instantiate if they're never used? ... one of the DI advantages is instantiation on demand), the biggest problem appears when the number of event listeners

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework - Stick with PHP slowest? or Make Zend framework as wrapper for Go language?

2012-03-20 Thread Juan Felipe Alvarez Saldarriaga
Nice initiative :D, I was thinking to do something with ZF similar to this article: http://areyoufuckingcoding.me/2012/02/27/go-powered-webservices-with-rails/, let Go do all the heavy duties, use REST to connect to the presentation part, rails in this case, seems a good idea; btw, did you look

[fw-general] Zend Framework - Stick with PHP slowest? or Make Zend framework as wrapper for Go language?

2012-03-20 Thread IamTrying
Go at present beats pretty much any and all dynamic languages. - Ruby - PHP -- An "ideal" optimiser could convert PHP with shitty algorithms into C with awesome algorithms for the same semantics. - Perl - Python - It is loosely equivalent in ability to be optimised with Java and C#, but has had l

[fw-general] Re: advice needed from Matthew

2012-03-20 Thread IamTrying
As an independent mind + a better/good programmers first job is to write there own cheat-sheet: Step 1) Write any language in first hand your cheat-sheet, in your case ZF2 Step 2) Github is free for public create a new repository empty one, and place there your own wiki [ZF Adapter Name] ; top

[fw-general] advice needed from Matthew

2012-03-20 Thread trycatchgo
I just would like to know whether I can use ZF2 documentation for building a web based tutorial site on ZF2. I just don't want to copy the entire documentation, need to use some of the information (few paragraphs) or some lines from a specific topic. As a PHP and ZF programmer, I believe ZF2 has a

[fw-general] Re: DI and native classes

2012-03-20 Thread macest
Oddly enough when I went to do this I removed my wrapper class and it magically started working without having to put that required parameter on. Not sure what happened there, just one of those things I guess lol. -- View this message in context: http://zend-framework-community.634137.n4.nabble.c

Re: [fw-general] ZF2 Di + EventManager

2012-03-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- ghola wrote (on Monday, 19 March 2012, 07:42 AM -0700): > Imagine the following situation: > You have several event handlers defined as services. These event handlers > need to have several other services injected into them (say you have an > invokable EmailUserOnNewAccountCreatedEventHandler t

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework Q&A website

2012-03-20 Thread Artur Bodera
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ralf Eggert wrote: > Just read on the ZF proposal: > Any comments? > Just found out. I have not been notified of that. It looks that the history repeats itself and the proposal has been veto-ed again for the same reason as before. I'll update you as soon as I k

[fw-general] Re: [zf-contributors] ZF2 EventManager now in ZF1 trunk

2012-03-20 Thread Greg
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > I've fielded a large number of requests > from ZF1 users who would like the functionality for their ZF1 > applications -- no more, no less. I appreciate that, but I'm still concerned that significant changes to the Event system wil

Re: [fw-general] Zend Framework Q&A website

2012-03-20 Thread Ralf Eggert
Just read on the ZF proposal: > closed as duplicate of Stack Overflow by Robert Cartaino♦ 24 mins ago > > This proposal would tend to drain audience from an existing Stack Exchange > site. Any comments? Best regards, Ralf -- List: fw-general@lists.zend.com Info: http://framework.zend.com/ar

[fw-general] ZF2 Di + EventManager

2012-03-20 Thread ghola
Imagine the following situation: You have several event handlers defined as services. These event handlers need to have several other services injected into them (say you have an invokable EmailUserOnNewAccountCreatedEventHandler that requires a Zend_Mail instance and a Zend_Db instance). Now in o

[fw-general] Re: [zf-contributors] ZF2 EventManager now in ZF1 trunk

2012-03-20 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney
-- Greg wrote (on Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 02:36 AM -0500): > I'm concerned that this code is being pushed into ZF1 so soon. In my > mind (tonight), PHP event driven programming boils down to how > processes are either registered or implemented. And with the right SOA > this isn't really a problem.

[fw-general] Re: [zf-contributors] ZF2 EventManager now in ZF1 trunk

2012-03-20 Thread Greg
Hi Jurian, On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Jurian Sluiman wrote: > Might this solve some of your > concerns? https://github.com/zendframework/zf2/pull/944 Thanks for letting me know. I'll take another look later on. Although I still think it may be a little too soon to be pushing this into ZF1

[fw-general] Re: [zf-contributors] ZF2 EventManager now in ZF1 trunk

2012-03-20 Thread Jurian Sluiman
HI Greg, Just a small note: 2012/3/20 Greg > As you know, I am extremely concerned by the usage of the > StaticEventManager. [...] However, to date in ZF2 the usage of the StaticEventManager is for high level processes that cannot be contained, as you say, within the object the graph. > Matt

[fw-general] Re: [zf-contributors] ZF2 EventManager now in ZF1 trunk

2012-03-20 Thread Greg
Hi Matthew, I'm concerned that this code is being pushed into ZF1 so soon. In my mind (tonight), PHP event driven programming boils down to how processes are either registered or implemented. And with the right SOA this isn't really a problem. Furthermore, registering event listeners/handlers in