David,

You wrote:
> Sorry, didn't realize I was posting to the list, my oops.
> David
>
> On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 06:26  PM, David M. Ensteness wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> I called Dell's 1-800 number on their web site, went through about 4
>> subdirectories and got in touch with sales person who I had transfer
>> me to customer service.... everyone there seems like they
>> are brain dead, I have spent about 6-8 hours on the phone and hold
>> with them over the course of 2 1/2 weeks.

Oh David, but it's nice to see that I'm not the only one who is amazed 
that Dell is still in business despite their horrendous salesmanship 
and customer service.  I think the "Dell Dude", "Steve", is possibly 
the brightest bulb in their string of lights.  Back in November, I had 
an experience that made me resolve never to do business with Dell.  In 
the end I wrote a letter to the Dell salesperson covering my company.  
Listreaders here who have had mediocre experiences with Apple may find 
themselves happier, given such alternatives.

I wrote to Dell, cc'ing their webmaster, their customer support 
address, and my own company's purchasing department:

> Dear [XXXX],
>
> I must say, this is one of the worst shopping and customer support
> experiences I've ever had.  This whole thing makes me want to never
> again deal with Dell, ever.
>
> I had a simple question.
> I wanted to know if expansion bay drives exist for the Inspiron 4000.
> If so, what is the part number.
> I could not find the answer on your web site. (It's virtually
> impossible to navigate)
> I telephoned the Dell 800 number and suffered through an annoyingly
> long menuing system.
> Eventually I was connected to your voicemail, where I learned your
> email address.
> I emailed you with my question.
> You did not answer my question, and instead sent me a link.
> And a phone number for someone else.
> The link was to a Dell web page, to submit questions.
> I submitted.
> The reply came today, from [YYYY].
> It did not answer my question, really, either.
> Instead there was an attachment: purchase order instructions and a link
> to a quote.
> That linked quote gives practically no description of the item.
> Am I supposed to buy something on the basis of a 9 word purchase order
> entry?
> I tried searching your website for what I assume is the part number
> (05MXK).
> No luck.
> I'm ready to call it quits.
>
> This is incredibly poor salesmanship, incredibly poor support, poor
> customer service, and a very poor website.
>
> If at some time you would like to try to sell the item, I suggest that
> you (1) make it easy to find; (2) offer a description and
> specifications; (3) Make technical specifications easy to locate on
> your website; (4) don't make people sift through multi-tiered menues on
> your telephone line; (5) Reply to simple questions with simple answers,
> not links to websites that require further client information,
> registrations, etc.

It should surprise no one that the Dell response to this letter offered 
no further information to my question, and that I was subsequently hit 
with automated followup emails from the Dell "support" system asking 
for feedback on how well my question was answered--a www link, and 
asking an array of unrelated, unimportant other "survey" questions.

Completely laughable.

I continue to highly recommend AppleCare.

--Jim.


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