Byron,

This sounds all too familiar to me, running a Lombard 333 G3. Problems began with the 10.2.8 update, the 'bad' one that was pulled within hours of its initial release. As soon as I tried to repair permissions with Disk Utility immediately after the install, I got the 'color-mental' symptoms and lockup you describe. The book would run for hours without incident, and then mysteriously have the display melt away during a network copy or other memory intensive activity.

I had hoped that applying the updated 10.2.8 release would fix it - nope. Then I hoped that applying the Panther OS, and then subsequent updates would fix it - nope again. In fact, I had to remove the RAM chip (256 MB) from my upper slot to get the Panther install to complete, also wiping the drive clean to make sure no bad remnants were left around causing havoc.

Of course, a thorough RAM check (in OS9) shows no problems. It appears to be that some area of memory is being allowed to overwrite the video RAM space (I'm no engineer, so your opinion on this is welcome). As I write this, my Lombard appears quite stable in OS X, but any attempt to do a large file transfer (> 200MB) or repair permissions with Disk Utility is sure to bring it down into colorful madness.

Also, see my previous post to James Sanderson for more possible trouble-shooting techniques addressing this issue. I know there's more of us out here, so maybe if we keep banging on this we can find a fix, or at least a workaround.

Rick

Allow me to add my experience. I too have had the same situation with a 13 inch Wallstreet. When I try to install OS X, the installation proceeds until the last part of the process with Disk 1. I have watch it as it happens. The screen will dissolve to white or dissolve to many colors and go dark. What has been so strange is that I was able to earlier install OS X but now it just will not work. I have changed out hard drives, changed out processor boards (had a Sonnet upgrade so tried the original processor board), taken out RAM, added RAM, I have even disassembled and checked the screen for bad cables, wiring, etc. all of this resulted in the same behavior. I finally gave up and resorted to OS 9.2.2. It has me completely baffled! I would love it if someone out there could give an explanation about what is going on.

Byron

On Dec 22, 2003, at 11:00 PM, James Sanderson wrote:

Thanks for the help about the above.

Now, I have a more serious difficulty. For some mysterious reason the video display will start going haywire during the installation process. Most of the time--this may be the 3rd or 4th--it will simply go blank and give me a white-blue screen. This time--the 5th-- it has given many beautiful colours. It must have gotten fairly well along in the install process as now the computer can't find a start-up volume, even with the OS X CD in the CD-ROM drive.

This really has me mystified. I had NO problem installing X on the original HD--a 4 GB original. It's tempting to go back to the original configuration say to heck with it all, but the extra space is needed for storage and for Classic.

Something else this machine is doing is not recognising CD's, in particular, CD-RW's. It also will not always mount the OS install disc. It has done this with both the OS and X discs.

Any ideas are welcome.

TIA

Jim Sanderson

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