Since I asked for bibliography, in case it's of interest, here's part of a new
review essay, "A 'Reconstructionist' Approach to the Dead Sea Scrolls..." on
E. Puech's DJD XXV, by Matthew Morgenstern, on 4Q523. JJS vol. LV Autumn 2004
347-53, here 349:
"On pages 75-76, Puech provides us with an
Dear Stephen et al,
After a careful review of the PAM image of 4Q448, I have decided that what I thought was a trace of a third arm of a shin was actually a shadow, and that the letter is indeed an ayin. It doesn not immediately follow that 4Q488 is antagonistic toward Jonathan, but I wan
Stephen,
I appreciate the general fairness and factuality of your reply, although for future reference you may note that Norman Golb has had no influence on my research on this or any other topic.
Russell Gm.
The reading of Shin starting col. B line 1 of 4Q448 has been proposed by M.O.
Wise,
:
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4Q448
Dear Stephen,Let's indeed address
this. If one examines the PAM 43.545 image of 4Q448, it is by no means
apparent that the first letter in B1 is an ayin. The dark, undefaced,
connected remains of the first letter do
The reading of Shin starting col. B line 1 of 4Q448 has been proposed by M.O.
Wise, N. Golb, G. Doudna, and R. Gmirkin. A much longer list of readers read
Ayin; and a number of the latter have declared that the reading of shin
is "materially impossible" or the like. (Citations on request.) The
Dear Stephen,
Let's indeed address this. If one examines the PAM 43.545 image of 4Q448, it is by no means apparent that the first letter in B1 is an ayin. The dark, undefaced, connected remains of the first letter do look like an ayin, but if you look closely there also appears to be a definite
Russel
Gmirkin wrote:
It seems to me that your
methodology is somewhat flawed, as you are on record as interpreting 4Q448 as
(a) antagonistic toward Alexander Jannaeus, or (b) favorable towards Alexander
Jannaeus, but written before this alleged Wicked Priest had fallen from
ranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Russell Gmirkin,
>
> I do not agree with what you wrote. Let's address this, for starters. You
> wrote:
>
>
> >
Russell Gmirkin,
I do not agree with what you wrote. Let's address this, for starters. You
wrote:
>On the matter of 4Q448, I think the reading "A Hymn for King Jonathan
>
> and all the Congregation of Your people Israel" is completely sensible
> (although I am willing to be persuaded
Stephen,
It seems to me that your methodology is somewhat flawed, as you are on record as interpreting 4Q448 as (a) antagonistic toward Alexander Jannaeus, or (b) favorable towards Alexander Jannaeus, but written before this alleged Wicked Priest had fallen from favor with the sectarians.
Marginal note.
The identified light at the end of the Essene tunnel might be the incoming
'Wizard of Oz' intercity train ...
On the other hand, the political relation between the robust staff-movement
(as one of the sources behind all literay "Essenism") and the Herodian
establisment of the 1st c
As previously noted, Daniel Harrington, John Strugnell, Emmanuelle Main, Andre
Lemaire, Geert Lorein, and I have argued that the 4Q448 columns B and C text
speaks against King Jonathan. And I added that he, Alexander Jannaeus, was the
Qumran Wicked Priest as well as the pesher Nahum Lion. Now I
Ken & list,
the phrase in question [cf. your paper on 4Q448], "assembly of your people
Israel" in col. B line 1 is apparently modified Joshua language (Jos 22.12),
thus probably reflecting a specific stage on the "Isaiah trail" [Is 40.3] of
"the rest that returns to Torah" [Is 10.20-27], i.e. being
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From: "Stephen Goranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> In my view, evidence is increasing that King Jonathan, Alexa
> Are there more recent studies or notable
> reviews 4Q448 and 4Q523 besides the above-mentioned? Thanks.
Since writing a paper on 4Q448 in 2000, I have learned of the following:
Corrado Martone, "Un inno di Qumran dedicato a "Re Gionata" (4Q448)," Henoch
19 (1997):131-141.
Ken Penner
McMaster
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From: "Stephen Goranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:55 PM
Subject: [Megillot] Jonathan: 4Q448, 4Q523, recent bibliography?
> [snip]
> Posidonius and Strabo, sources on Essenes, cons
In my view, evidence is increasing that King Jonathan, Alexander Jannaeus,
also the Lion of 4Qpesher Nahum, was the Qumran mss "Wicked Priest." And that
his contemporary, Judah the Essene, the first known Essene individual,
mentioned in War and Antiquities, and as a teacher and prophet, was the
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