RE: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Stewie de Young
There is nothing wrong with these old machines. My 8 yr old daughter uses a black 1996 Directors Edition 5500/180 upgraded to a 5500/250 logicboard( sold only here in Australia and Japan and kinda like the old Mac TV you have there in the States ) with a G3/500 upgrade Sonnet CPU and a Radeon 3

Re: Multiple HDs & os x

2009-11-29 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:12 AM, bkprolix wrote: > > I have a sawtooth 400, 1gig ram. I have a 12 gig drive & a 40 gig > drive. I am running out of space on the 12 & would like to either move > everything to the 40, or at least the user & Applications folders. I > have dragged them to the 40, but i

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2009-11-29 Thread Liam Proven
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: > > ok the Rev.2 ones have 16MB of video RAM (use system profiler.) Um.B&W G3s use a separate graphics card, so there could be any sorts of card in there and thus any amount of VRAM, so that is no guide. For instance, mine has a Radeon 7000 in

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
I very happy to report the lines have gone away after following Tom's (OWC) directions: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/graphics/mac_radeon_9200pci_tests.html I did a PMU reset and NVRAM reset. ( minus PRAM reset) and now everything seems fine in Mac OS 9! I also installed the powerful PCI slot cooler

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
I'm having no luck trying to get the heatsink off the card. Any tips on how to get this thing off? The nipples don't want to twist off and they're too wide to go back through the holes on the card. It looks like the compound is epoxy too - like a glob of tooth paste. Is this worth going on with thi

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
Hi Stewie! :) On Nov 29, 4:55 pm, Stewie de Young wrote: > Is this the original hard drive in this machine ? LOL, no. I don't get many problems from it either. It's from my eMac (80GB) that I upgraded to a 500GB WD. > If it is, then it is what - close to ten years old - a pensioner in computing

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread Al boone
I really can't figure out if this is a serious conversation or not. Is it possible to end it because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere? just my 2 cents. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM, John Musbach wrote: > On 11/29/09, Dan wrote: > > So you believe that sites MUST have in-your-face obnoxiou

RE: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Stewie de Young
Is this the original hard drive in this machine ? If it is, then it is what - close to ten years old - a pensioner in computing years. I'd look at that as probably the main culprit here going by some of the follow up postings about other symptoms and not your video card. A reinstall of OS9.2 wou

Re: Apple USB Extended Keyboard Extension

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
On Nov 29, 4:42 pm, "Michael G.M." wrote: > The USB ports can be problematic for issues such as booting up and > sleeping the system. I mean the PCI USB cards can cause problems like booting with the keyboard plugged into them and the system may not be able to use sleep mode. cheers! ~Mike --

Re: Apple USB Extended Keyboard Extension

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
Hi there! Are you using this keyboard in a PCI USB expansion card? If so, you should use the keyboard in the main USB ports of the G4 instead. The USB ports can be problematic for issues such as booting up and sleeping the system. Cheers! :) ~Mike On Nov 29, 8:16 am, yawg wrote: > Hi, > > When I

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
On Nov 29, 3:46 pm, Richard Gerome wrote: >    I would clean it out on the inside to make sure it's not running a little > hot, also take out the video card and clean the connectors where it plugs > into the mother board and reinstall it, make sure the cord that runs to the > monitor is good

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread John Musbach
On 11/29/09, Dan wrote: > So you believe that sites MUST have in-your-face obnoxious offensive > cpu-chewing advertising, or they'll fail? How does that work, > against successful models such as google's simple line-item ads? Or > the myriad of ad companies that offer only simple static banners?

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Richard Gerome
I would clean it out on the inside to make sure it's not running a little hot, also take out the video card and clean the connectors where it plugs into the mother board and reinstall it, make sure the cord that runs to the monitor is good (wiggle the plugs on the tower and the monitor while

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread Dan
At 2:36 PM -0500 11/29/2009, John Musbach wrote: >On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Paul wrote: >> Oh, so technology should only be used to make us spend more money, and >> we shouldn't make use of technology that lets us save money and do >> what we'd like? > >Oh you can, just don't expect ser

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
Well, I swapped the 9200 with the Rage 128 and the graphics issue seems to be gone. I guess the 9200 is about toast. Though I should have a second spare GPU PCI card for this. I just won another G4 (AGP) on eBay and it has two GPUs, one in the AGP slot and one in the PCI slot. So, a spare may not b

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread John Musbach
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Paul wrote: > Oh, so technology should only be used to make us spend more money, and > we shouldn't make use of technology that lets us save money and do > what we'd like? Oh you can, just don't expect services you don't financially support to be around very long

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Nov 29, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Paul wrote: > > > Oh, so technology should only be used to make us spend more money, and > we shouldn't make use of technology that lets us save money and do > what we'd like? No, simply do not whinge about what gift horses' mouths contain. You want internet conte

Re: G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
I think there's some other issues going on too. When I just tried to do a copy and paste from the calculator for memory allocation for one of the programs (blue's clues kindergarten) the calculator backed up from the sum to the multiple. (Command+V) Odd. I've never had this issue before. I always u

G3 9200 dying?

2009-11-29 Thread Michael G.M.
I let my kids use my G3 B&W for their educational games with Mac OS 9.2.2. Lately I think my 9200 Mac Ed. 128 MB card may be flying the coup. Graphics seem slower than usual and sometimes there's little horizontal lines that flicker on the screen. It has a generic CRT 17" and 1GB RAM. It's a nice o

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread Dan
At 9:05 AM -0800 11/29/2009, Paul wrote: > > Disconnect from the Internet. Seriously, disk space, bandwidth, and >> computing power, even today, is very expensive--if you can't >> financially support the websites you use then you shouldn't be >> expecting the service they provide you in exchang

Re: Data Recovery Part 2

2009-11-29 Thread Paul
On Nov 21, 4:05 pm, Roger Kulp wrote: > I was wondering about data recovery myself.I had a G4 MDD,and the  surge > protector got wet the other day.There was a spectacular fireworks > display,that blew out the wiring in the room,and now my poor Mac is dead.:_( > > Can anything be saved? > Eve

Re: Other, unwanted intruders

2009-11-29 Thread Paul
> Disconnect from the Internet. Seriously, disk space, bandwidth, and > computing power, even today, is very expensive--if you can't > financially support the websites you use then you shouldn't be > expecting the service they provide you in exchange. I hate people who > steal financially from thos

Re: G4 getting wonky with cpu hungry widgets.

2009-11-29 Thread carter foreman
I want to Thank every one who read and responded to my thread. I learned a few things and i will investigate the Onyx and the applejack. What i forgot to do before i posted to the list was to boot from OSX installer DVD and run Disk Utility. Heh. I did that and it couldn't fix it. So i ran Disk

Apple USB Extended Keyboard Extension

2009-11-29 Thread yawg
Hi, When I boot into OS9 I always get the message that the Apple USB Extended Keyboard Extension is not found. I installed the USB Device Extension like Apple advises on their site but I still get the reminder every time I boot. What gives? I'm using a white extended keybord from an older iMac, I