Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-09 Thread Bill Christensen
At 3:58 PM -0400 6/9/10, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I have a Power Macintosh G4 iSaw (AKA Sawtooth) with 4GB of SDRAM, 440GB of HDD space, Mac OS X 10.5.8, and Mac OS X 10.6.3. Yeah, that's right! I do have 10.6.3 on a PPC mac! Ok, 10.6 on a sawtooth is cool and all, but what I want to know is: A

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Dan wrote: Very cool! URL for Q? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-09 Thread Dan
At 3:58 PM -0400 6/9/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote in one honking big paragraph: The Motorola and IBM industry still make derivatives of the forever famous PowerPC But they're targeted to different markets now. In my opinion, as long as the software you have on it is still supported, then the

Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-09 Thread JoeTaxpayer
On Jun 9, 3:58 pm, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: > The Motorola and IBM industry still make derivatives of the forever famous > PowerPC Processors made for macs that were stopped in production over 5 > years ago. Since then, one by one, First the G3 Macs, then The Power macs, > and after a while the ea

Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?

2010-06-09 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
The Motorola and IBM industry still make derivatives of the forever famous PowerPC Processors made for macs that were stopped in production over 5 years ago. Since then, one by one, First the G3 Macs, then The Power macs, and after a while the early 2004 PM G5's have been put on the list of "Obsole

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: The reason why a PPC and an intel can both boot from 10.4 and 10.5 is because they have both the intel and the PPC code. Since they have both processor architecture codes, it won't care if it's a PPC or intel. It will only care if it has

Safari 4.1 and 5.0

2010-06-09 Thread Dan
At 9:41 AM -0400 6/9/2010, Dan wrote: I strongly recommend upgrading Safari and using the latest WebKit Nightly. The WebKit included in the Safari release is, as usually, weeks old. The latest Nightly build is yet-again faster. On the Sunspider tests, I'm seeing that it's often between .8 to

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread Dan
At 12:13 PM -0400 6/9/2010, John Martz wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Dan wrote: > Apple fixed that. Either partition type works. GUID is simply "preferred" for x86 Macs. I guess the only question I would have is how "preferred" is it? GUID is the future. I would not expect to

Re: 10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:55 AM, Daniel Stewart wrote: > Yeah it is a universal install disk. When I try and get it to boot > with the C key I get the white screen with the grey Apple logo, but > it does not seem to be doing anything. Is there some way to bring up > a verbose mode that would tell m

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread Dan
At 9:06 AM -0700 6/9/2010, john CARMONNE wrote: On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:06 PM -0700 6/8/2010, John Carmonne wrote: external FW USB 320 drive I confused my self tonight and booted 10.5 with an Intel MacBook and did a clean install, I thought that the drive had to be formate

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread John Martz
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Dan wrote: > > Apple fixed that.  Either partition type works.  GUID is simply "preferred" > for x86 Macs. > I guess the only question I would have is how "preferred" is it? Using APM on an external drive I would not worry about because that seems most in line wit

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread john CARMONNE
On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:06 PM -0700 6/8/2010, John Carmonne wrote: external FW USB 320 drive I confused my self tonight and booted 10.5 with an Intel MacBook and did a clean install, I thought that the drive had to be formated GUID to boot an Intel machine, This drive I

Re: 10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel Stewart
Yeah it is a universal install disk. When I try and get it to boot with the C key I get the white screen with the grey Apple logo, but it does not seem to be doing anything. Is there some way to bring up a verbose mode that would tell me if the computer is doing anything? Furthermore if for some

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread Dan
At 9:06 PM -0700 6/8/2010, John Carmonne wrote: external FW USB 320 drive I confused my self tonight and booted 10.5 with an Intel MacBook and did a clean install, I thought that the drive had to be formated GUID to boot an Intel machine, This drive I have is Apple partition Map because I use

Re: PPC Intel HDD partition map

2010-06-09 Thread Sri Gupta
It's unsupported, but intel macs will boot from an APM volume. If you accidentally format your boot drive as an APM volume, at boot time it will take a little longer but it will boot eventually (you'll get the broken folder icon for a few seconds, then the apple icon). -sri On Jun 8, 11:06 pm, J

Re: 10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 9, 2010, at 3:44 AM, Scotty wrote: > I found my 10.5 install disk and I am trying to install it on my > Quicksilver and running into problems. The disk starts up just fine > from the desktop in 10.4, but it seems that if I try too boot from the > DVD it either pops open the DVD tray and

Re: Safari 4.1

2010-06-09 Thread Dan
At 2:08 AM -0400 6/9/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: [html removed] Don't download Safari 4.1, Download Safari 5.0. it's faster, Both are based on the same WebKit, so they should be about the same speed. Which you use is more controlled by which OS you have. Safari 4.1 was released for Tiger.

Re: Safari 4.1

2010-06-09 Thread Peter
There is no Safari 5 for 10.4.X Peter M. Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Mark Sokolovsky Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 02:08:18 To: Subject: Re: Safari 4.1 > > Don't download Safari 4.1, Download Safari 5.0. it's faster, and for some > reason it looks a bit like Safari 3. i

10.5 install issues. PM G4 Quicksilver 933mhz w/1.25 GB RAM

2010-06-09 Thread Scotty
I found my 10.5 install disk and I am trying to install it on my Quicksilver and running into problems. The disk starts up just fine from the desktop in 10.4, but it seems that if I try too boot from the DVD it either pops open the DVD tray and just boots from the HDD or it sits at the white scre

Re: Safari 4.1

2010-06-09 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
> > Don't download Safari 4.1, Download Safari 5.0. it's faster, and for some > reason it looks a bit like Safari 3. it really does. Safari 4 had the > loading word in a box and a loading symbol next to it. Not it's back to the > blue leading bar and loading circle at the right side on the address