Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-21 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Simon Royal wrote: All I can find on eBay is a small handful of cards mainly AGP Rage Pros. Yeah, I'm only seeing about 300 listed in the UK. Bummer, we've got about 600+ listed here in the states (Radeon AGP). Still, you might look through the list of 300 UK

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-21 Thread Simon Royal
Kris Out of those 300 how many are Mac compatible? I'm looking through them now. Try this http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fComputerQ5fComponentsQ5fGraphicsQ5fVideoQ5fTVQ5fCardsQ5fTW?_nkw=Radeon+AGP+mac_sacat=0_fromfsb=_trksid=m270.l1313_odkw=Radeon+AGP+mac_osacat=0

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-21 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:58 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Out of those 300 how many are Mac compatible? I'm looking through them now. Probably none, but most (perhaps 200) are easily flashed to Mac. For information and ROMs for converting to Mac, see: http://themacelite.wikispaces.com/ I'm sure

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-21 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 21, 2008, at 4:49 AM, Simon Royal wrote: So let me get this right. I could get a PC Rage Pro 128 or other card and flash it for the Mac on a Mac? I don't know anything about flashing Rage cards. These were so old I think some didn't have flash ROM, they had fixed firmware. I know

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-21 Thread Simon Royal
Kris. Sorry its been a long and stressful week. :)--- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth From: Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 21/10/2008 11:03 On Oct 21, 2008, at 4:49 AM, Simon Royal wrote: So let

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-21 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 21, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Sorry its been a long and stressful week. :) No joke. It's a stress wave and we little particles all rise and fall together. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End

AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Simon Royal
Hi I have been thinking. This is only a 400Mhz Sawtooth, nothing mind blowing, how much of a difference would a new graphics card actually make. It has a 16MB PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro card at present. I have been looking at a 16MB AGP ATI Rage Pro card (one that originally should be in it) and a

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Simon Royal wrote: I think the 16MB AGP ATI Rage 128 Pro would be a better choice than the 32MB PCI ATI Radeon 7000. The Rage isn't even supported in Tiger or Leopard, look in ConsoleSystem.log and you'll see some warnings. The Radeon enables Quartz Extreme,

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Simon Royal
--- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth From: Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20/10/2008 10:26 On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:54 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Is AGP that much faster than PCI? I have been Googling the question

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Simon Royal
Kris The Rage is AGP and the Radeon is PCI. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth From: Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20/10/2008 12:40 On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:41 AM, Simon Royal wrote: I think

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:54 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Is AGP that much faster than PCI? I have been Googling the question and it seems not. In standard 33MHz PCI slots a PCI video card is 1/2xAGP speed. If you had a 66MHz PCI slot (you don't, but the PCI Graphics Yikes has one, and also the

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Clark Martin
Simon Royal wrote: Hi I have been thinking. This is only a 400Mhz Sawtooth, nothing mind blowing, how much of a difference would a new graphics card actually make. It has a 16MB PCI ATI Rage 128 Pro card at present. I have been looking at a 16MB AGP ATI Rage Pro card (one that

Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth

2008-10-20 Thread Simon Royal
Kris All I can find on eBay is a small handful of cards mainly AGP Rage Pros. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: AGP vs PCI On Sawtooth From: Kris Tilford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20/10/2008 21:08 On Oct 20, 2008, at 8:57