On 01/24/2014 07:18 PM, Carl Nilsson wrote:
Rob: ...and so maybe a million new users get introduced to Python -
already loaded in the Wheezy RPi distro, not Gambas. If you want to
secure the long term future of Gambas, one of things that must be done
is to attract new users. These new
G'day Rob:
I concede to your greater knowledge and experience. Just a couple
of points in response:
Firstly, I chose my words a wave of the future carefully. I did
not say the wave ... Hopefully the future holds many good waves.
Secondly, I was simply following the thread, which may or may
(too many to quote!)
I'm one of those experienced VB6 users that used to swim in the Caribe,
and Microsoft sent to the Marianas abiss with .NET ; so I think there is
a huge amount of potential ex VB6 programmers to join the Gambas force.
So Gambas is not THAT easy to install or compile? Well,
On 01/24/2014 02:03 PM, martin p cristia wrote:
So Gambas is not THAT easy to install or compile? Well, we're
programmers, lets show some effort... Linux hard to install? Ubuntu
sets a computer up in 20m, and if its a
If they're running Ubuntu, it's just a matter of a few clicks to install
Rob:
...and so maybe a million new users get introduced to Python -
already loaded in the Wheezy RPi distro, not Gambas. If you want to
secure the long term future of Gambas, one of things that must be
done is to attract new users. These new users, like me, are just the
ones that don't have
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Jussi Lahtinen wrote:
I would guess by far the largest number of potential
- not current - users are those who have come from Windows and
VB6. If they are long-standing users of Linux, then they are
probably conversant with C, etc. and don't particularly need/want a
Tobias:
Thank you for reply. I think maybe you misunderstood a couple of
points I was trying to make.
I was not criticizing any language, particularly not Gambas. Nor was
inferring that Linux is not a great set of op. systems, one or many
of which would be of long-term advantage to a user.
.
Thank you
-Nando
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From: Jussi Lahtinen jussi.lahti...@gmail.com
To: mailing list for gambas users gambas-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 03:31:56 +0200
Subject: Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas Future or what kind of Gambas we want.
I would
I have to agree 100% with Carl!
I too have experience programming GUI's for about 15 years with VB6. I have a
very small amount of Linux experience.
The reason I am reading this list is that I did not like .Net and wanted to
find
an alternative to VB6. I found Gambas and it looked good. I
I know a lot of people will say its not that hard or I did it in only
four
hours but you are already knowledgeable in Linux.
No one has born with skills to use Windows or Linux. But installing Windows
or Ubuntu is almost exactly the same. I didn't notice any significant
difference. Then you
Hi, Tom. I have to take a small issue with your last few sentences. I an
definitely NOT knowledgeable in LINUX (Ubuntu) and definitely cannot compile
all the new changes in Gambas as they come hot off the press, but I did
manage to install Ubuntu in under an hour and create my first
Jussi said: But instead of guessing what were the troubles, please
tell us, it's only way
to improve things.
That's a fair question.
Some time ago I had actually bought a set of DVD's with
openSUSE12.2, after unsuccessfully trying to intall Lubuntu and
Ubuntu on an older computer. (I'll
Now I'm having trouble with the mailing list!
Here's my response to a fair question.
Some time ago I had actually bought a set of DVD's with
openSUSE12.2, after unsuccessfully trying to intall Lubuntu and
Ubuntu on an older computer. (I'll try again some time). However,
openSUSE 12.2
Let's try this!
Jussi said: But instead of guessing what were the troubles, please
tell us, it's only way
to improve things.
That's a fair question.
Some time ago I had actually bought a set of DVD's with openSUSE12.2,
after unsuccessfully trying to intall Lubuntu and Ubuntu on an older
I see your all three replies..?
Some time ago I had actually bought a set of DVD's with openSUSE12.2,
Bought? It's free!
... after unsuccessfully trying to intall Lubuntu and Ubuntu on an older
computer.
Off topic for this list, but I'm curious what went wrong?
However, gambas3
Jussi:
Re Ubuntu: I don't know what went wrong - maybe it was my hardware -
I'll try again sometime.
Re the munix9 repository: Yes, I think the packaging was at fault. I
saw a reference to that somewhere.
There was a useful guide to installation on
http://gambasdoc.org/help/install?enviewv3,
Yes Tobias, you put it in the last paragraph:
No doubt, migrating windows users (VB6 or not) are potential Gambas users
and their number may be greater than the ones I was talking about but let's
don't concentrate on any particular group and let Gambas evolve naturally. I
don't like the
If that's your only point, Carl
continue to use it. To put VB6 onto Windows XP, I insert the CD,
click a few times, put in my keycode and it is done. Heaps and heaps
of online help, both from MS and the net. The installation process
for Gambas into Linux, plus other components gets better
On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 17:58 -0500, Kevin Fishburne wrote:
On 01/21/2014 03:57 PM, martin p cristia wrote:
Stepping in this old conversation to point out my take:
-computers nowadays are fast enough to run a VM that's fast enough to
run a normal aplication
-If Benoit says it's
If anyone is willing to work with me, that would be great.
I do.
I'm a experienced VB6 user, have a very little C knowledge and 60%
Gambas, but learning fast.
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Wally:
To return to the RPi and the like:
As I posted on the Raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/ site on 22 Nov 2013 , I
gratefully used an image file loaded into dropbox by fuller (see
his post on 11 Aug 2012) for my wheezy-gambas3.img file - i.e. Debian
wheezy with pre-installed Gambas3.2.1. Any attempt
Willy:
My apologies - also to Wally. My previous on this subject should
have been addressed to you. It was in the early hours!
I suppose the more basic answer as to getting a greater take up on
this lovely language is that you have to identify and satisfy the
target market. I would guess by
I would guess by far the largest number of potential
- not current - users are those who have come from Windows and
VB6. If they are long-standing users of Linux, then they are
probably conversant with C, etc. and don't particularly need/want a
Basic derivative.
I strongly disagree here. C
Stepping in this old conversation to point out my take:
-computers nowadays are fast enough to run a VM that's fast enough to
run a normal aplication
-If Benoit says it's complicated, what's left for us ??
- so instead of trying to port gambas, why not making a installer that
The Future and what kind of Gambas do we
want? Well, this is a question general enough
that I can understand it and put in my modest contribution:
I have just started using Gambas. A year ago I
started asking a question or two on this forum
about using it to write for an embedded system on
On 01/21/2014 03:57 PM, martin p cristia wrote:
Stepping in this old conversation to point out my take:
-computers nowadays are fast enough to run a VM that's fast enough to
run a normal aplication
-If Benoit says it's complicated, what's left for us ??
- so instead of
MIR ?
from wikipaedia :
Also in June 2013 Julien Lavergne, of the Lubuntu project, indicated that
Lubuntu would not be switching to Mir for at least the next two
releases.[39][41]
In August 2013, after evaluating Mir, the Xubuntu developers decided not to
use Mir or XMir for Xubuntu
2013-11-03 13:04 keltezéssel, Fabien Bodard írta:
MIR ?
from wikipaedia :
Also in June 2013 Julien Lavergne, of the Lubuntu project, indicated that
Lubuntu would not be switching to Mir for at least the next two
releases.[39][41]
In August 2013, after evaluating Mir, the Xubuntu developers
Dear Fernando,
yes I know, I said SQLite support is planned ;-) It works well with
PostgreSQL if you connect to an existing database.
All the best,
M.
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Assistant professor and head of Artificial Intelligence Lab
University of Zagreb
Faculty of Organization and Informatics
On 11/02/2013 03:03 AM, Markus Schatten wrote:
Dear Nige and all,
I'm working on something like MS Access in Gambas 3, but it's far from
complete. For now it works with PostgreSQL, XSB, eXist, Flora-2 and
ZODB, but SQLite and others like CouchDB are planned and should be
done soon. You can
After long talk with many gambas developpers, after years of joy on the use
of this language, I want to talk about its future... its persistance.
Benoit for me is a little bit like our Linus. He have done something for
itself and it's today one of the better tool ever see. (Umm ... ;-))
Now,
Le 01/11/2013 11:15, Fabien Bodard a écrit :
After long talk with many gambas developpers, after years of joy on the use
of this language, I want to talk about its future... its persistance.
Benoit for me is a little bit like our Linus. He have done something for
itself and it's today one
well, theres some point that end in a double-edged sword
there's sense to ported to BSD, maebo, firefox-os,but if we make
software for non-free
systems, i see that most free projects in net the binaries for OSX or
Guindows are more
downloaded rather than the binaries for FOSS like linux, maebo,
On 11/01/2013 06:33 AM, François Gallo wrote:
Le 01/11/2013 11:15, Fabien Bodard a écrit :
After long talk with many gambas developpers, after years of joy on the use
of this language, I want to talk about its future... its persistance.
Benoit for me is a little bit like our Linus. He have
On 11/01/2013 12:19 PM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
well, theres some point that end in a double-edged sword
there's sense to ported to BSD, maebo, firefox-os,but if we make
software for non-free
systems, i see that most free projects in net the binaries for OSX or
Guindows are more
Why, at least if it would be possible to implement multi-threading...
2013/11/1 Kevin Fishburne kevinfishbu...@eightvirtues.com
On 11/01/2013 12:19 PM, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
well, theres some point that end in a double-edged sword
there's sense to ported to BSD, maebo, firefox-os,but
Le 01/11/2013 11:33, François Gallo a écrit :
Le 01/11/2013 11:15, Fabien Bodard a écrit :
After long talk with many gambas developpers, after years of joy on the use
of this language, I want to talk about its future... its persistance.
Benoit for me is a little bit like our Linus. He have
2013-11-01 21:10 keltezéssel, Benoît Minisini írta:
Le 01/11/2013 11:33, François Gallo a écrit :
Le 01/11/2013 11:15, Fabien Bodard a écrit :
After long talk with many gambas developpers, after years of joy on the use
of this language, I want to talk about its future... its persistance.
Hi
I'm sure that we all acknowledge that Gambas plays much the same role on Linux
that VB plays on Windows. I used to be a VB developer, but I'd far sooner work
with Gambas any day, even if it could be run on Windows. That said, the fact is
that VB does exist and, whatever we like to think, it
Dear Nige and all,
I'm working on something like MS Access in Gambas 3, but it's far from
complete. For now it works with PostgreSQL, XSB, eXist, Flora-2 and
ZODB, but SQLite and others like CouchDB are planned and should be
done soon. You can take a look at it at:
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