All this vb6 talk makes me want to mention.
http://www.powerbasic.com
It's still supported, still being upgraded, and works with every single release
of windows from 95 up to 7.
Also, it requires no external dlls for the basic runtimes. I.E. if you write a
program in powerbasic that doesn't use
Hi Thomas,
Yeah, but since I am not creating video games, I think that as long as
computers can run BB6 and DirectX games, I will stick with it. It sure seems
to do what I want it to. Plus as you have mentioned, the XNA is not totally
accessible for a totally blind programmer.
Hey, I have
Hi Thomas,
Yeah, I have heard else where that VB Net is popular in the business community.
Thank you for the suggestion for me to check out the Learning Visual Basic .NET
from book share.
I was really just curious, doubt that I will switch languages for my games. I
mean just installing my
Hi Che,
Thanks. I may take a look at C sharp. The only thing is, as I said to Thomas,
I think that I will just stick with VB6 for my games. I mean with the problem
of people needing to have the correct Net stuff installed etc. But as I said I
just love programming and should take a look
Hi Jim,
Yeah, the basic programming languages have evolved quite a lot over the
years as has everything else. Microsoft's Visual Basic project was a
smash hit with a lot of average people as it took most of the difficulty
out of programming complex programs quickly and as simply as possible.
Hi Jim,
Well, my biggest problem with .NET wasn't the languages or the .NET
Framework so much as Managed DirectX. It doesn't ship with Windows, and
nor does Microsoft plan to make it a core component since DirectSound
and the older DirectX libraries are on their way out anyway. So I
Tom said it's called to do c++ or c~
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: 19 December 2009 10:55 PM
To: Che
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Naive C++ Questions
Hi Che,
Thanks. I may take a look at C sharp
Well, actually, it's notjust about C++. I'm wondering what I would have to
do to learn a programming language which would be useful for coding games.
I have the time to invest, I just don't have a lot of money. Is it possible
to get the programming tools for, say, C++ or C#online? Are
Hi Bill,
I'm sorry, but I can't help with the C questions. I have always programmed in
Basic. And that is kind of a problem as well since Microsoft no longer sells
Visual Basic 6, which is what all of my games are programmed in. However if
you do get ahold of VB6, I did just put a simple
in the first place?
See, I'm an utter moron about this stuff as it stands.
--Bill
- Original Message -
From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
To: William L. Houts Gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Naive C++ Questions
Hi Bill,
I'm
Bill, here is a message Phillip Benfall wrote to the list a while
ago regarding c++.
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Re: [Audyssey] another game programming question
Being a C++ developer I will perhaps not surprisingly, recommend C++. I
have heard that C# has some major drawbacks, though Thomas
Hey, thanks for posting this! I'llcheck out both of these links.
--Bill
- Original Message -
From: Willem dwill...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Naive C++ Questions
Bill, here
Hi Bill,
I've answered most of these questions before over the passed couple of
days, but again here is a quick answer to your questions.
Yes, there are free tools to create C++ and C# applications. For Windows
users Microsoft has a free set of tools under Visual Studio Express for
creating
Hi,
Yeah, but there is VB 2008. It is more object oriented than VB 6, but it
still has the basic simplicity of Visual Basic in mind. Some things are
the same such as writing a sub, if statement, while loop, etc. The major
changes is in classes and of course instead of accessing the Win32 API
you provide.
You and the others have been very gracious in your responses and I thank you
all.
--Bill
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Naive
thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Naive C++ Questions
Hi Bill,
I've answered most of these questions before over the passed couple of
days, but again here is a quick answer to your questions.
Yes
Hi Bill,
Visual Basic 6 has been depricated for years, and was supported on XP
simply as backward legacy support. On Windows 7 if you want to use a
Visual Basic 6 application, such as Jim's games, you have to install the
Visual Basic 6 runtime environment as several of the Visual Basic 6
Hi Bill,
Oh, I certainly won't yell at you, but I would recommend going back
through the list archives as I think many of your questions have
probably been answered there. That's a good way to get yourself back up
to speed so to speak.
Smile
William L. Houts wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I
Hi Bill,
Usually Visual Basic 6 would not come on a computer, one would need to buy it.
Maybe Visual Basic Net might come on computers now, but not VB6.
To get to Visual Basic 6 for me it is in Program files, Microsoft Visual Studio
6.0.
Sorry, that's probably not much help.
TGIF and BFN
Hi Bill,
No problem. The direct url for the Visual C++ compiler is
http://developers.usagamesinteractive.com/downloads/vs-express/VC-Express-2008.zip
and this version comes with the 2008 Windows Platform SDK so that should
be all you need unless you need DirectX or SDL which are separate
Hi Jim and all,
All of the Microsoft development tools and development kits are separate
downloads. The one advantage Visual Basic 2008 has over Visual Basic 6
is now the basic IDE and compiler has been released as shareware rather
than under a commercial license. Similarly Visual C++ and
Hi Thomas,
You know, I have been wondering for awhile how much I would need to change my
programming habits to go from VB6 to VB net. Especially if BB net supports
stuff like GoSub, loop while, GoTo etc. But it kind of looks like you are
saying that VB net is on it's way out as well. I
the only language I have used is pascal.
free pascal with dev pascal compiler.
it was part of my uni class.
now if any resource is avalible for gaming I actually may pull out my
programming books from those early days.
I only have done console apps but still.
At 11:49 a.m. 19/12/2009, you wrote:
Hi Jim,
Well, VB .NET has a lot of support in the business world so I wouldn't
say it is on its way out. It has mor to do with the fact that most of
the programming books on the language and the people who use it use it
for business oriented programs. Back in the 90's several major
Hi Jim,
I would highly recommend you take a look at c sharp.
The learning curve from vb to sharp won't be nearly as steep as c plus
plus, and a good deal of the IDE you are used to will still be there, and it
works great with jaws.
I am currently wrapping up my last project with vb.net as
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