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2010-11-11 Thread Jerry Belloit
I am not sure you are being fair to Charlie Pell. You have to remember the time and context. Charlie Pell did what most all coaches did back then. He had the misfortune of having the NCAA decide that college sports needed to be cleaned up and Pell and Florida was made an example. I know first h

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Well said, Jong. What Charley may have built, Charley destroyed, including himself. Charley was not well. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Jong Limb Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:00:06 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Don't even go there! He would immediately recruit an entire team of kids who can both think and play football at the same time and we would all be doomed. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: "Jay Cicone" Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:26:51

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
I worship at your feet, my Gator princess. Helen told me to say that. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: "Cecilia" Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:21:24 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] GatorSports.com I di

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Amen. Pass the plate. Speaking of baseball, we are going to the College World Series again. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Woody Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:09:05 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Ga

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Don't forget to mention, Helen, that Meyer has yet to 'name' anything on campus or personally kick a game-winning field goal against one of our most historically evil rivals. Can he win our first SEC Championship or National Championship? I think not. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Wow. I'm tossing all my old Media Guides and going searchable digital. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Helen Huntley Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:52:43 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] GatorSports.com

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
SOS rules. Of course, Graves gave us the chemically-induced Silver Sixties; think Robert Cade. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Helen Huntley Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 13:22:24 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [ga

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
We were much more than nothing, Woody one. We were sporadically threatening. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Woody Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:54:42 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] GatorSports.com T

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Another grasshopper eager to know the ultimate unfolding of Gator history. Who's been the Gator coach with the most dramatic impact on current Gator football? Not even close. We play him Saturday. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Steve McKibben Sender: gatortalk@g

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Well said when discussing current events. As for history, the tale is yet to be told. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: Helen Huntley Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:28:16 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk]

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
How would we possibly know? Gator history has only recently begun. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: oli...@bobparks.com Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:15:00 To: Gator Talk Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] GatorSpo

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2010-11-11 Thread lpolhill
Congrats for the show, Zeb! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -Original Message- From: John Vega Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:47:49 To: Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from the Palm Beach Post and Miami Heral

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2010-11-11 Thread oliver
That's an excellent point and well taken. He was probably the champ program builder. Good thing the NCAA didn't order buildings torn down at UF and Clemson after Charlie got caught. :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jong Limb Sender: gatortalk@googleg

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2010-11-11 Thread Jong Limb
Charley Pell as one of the greatest program builders?  Sure, I'm on board with that.  He built Clemson into a national champion, and UF into a should-have-been national champion. Charley Pell as one of the greatest coaches?  I don't agree.  He coached so tight sometimes he squeezed the air out

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2010-11-11 Thread oliver
Any conversation about greatest coaches should include Charlie Pell. Yes, cheated, etc. But, he lead the construction of facilities and even about thinking about providing facilities all these stud players would have to have before even thinking about coming to UF. Without Charlie Spurrier would

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2010-11-11 Thread Jay Cicone
If THBC can win a championship at SC after winning at UF and Duke, he will go down as one of the greatest ever. Of course, he would then accept the job at Vandy to try for the perfecta. -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cec

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2010-11-11 Thread Cecilia
I disagree. I think SOS vs. anyone should go to SOS. IMO, he's the best coach in the history of college football, but you've heard that from me before. Cee - Original Message - From: To: "Gator Talk" Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: [gatortalk] GatorSports.com

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2010-11-11 Thread Jay Cicone
Well said, Helen. Perhaps it explains Meyers fixation with hitting the big play as an integral part of his offense. A swing for the fence mentality. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:03 PM To: gato

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2010-11-11 Thread Woody
Not sure thats a fair comparison. Typically for a logical comparison it would need to be within a 10 yr timeframe... competition then is significantly different (better?) than it is now. Personel is very different. etc. Not fair to Spurrier or Meyer to compare records. Woody On Thu, Nov 11, 2

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2010-11-11 Thread Helen Huntley
Spurrier had 3 out of 11 seasons with 3 or 4 losses (27%) Meyer is having his third out of 6 seasons (50%) Meyer's record is more like the guy who either hits a home run or strikes out--50% of the time it's a one-loss season and 50% it's a 3 or more loss season. Spurrier teams most commonly had 2 l

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2010-11-11 Thread Helen Huntley
Here's where you can look up the answer to Zeb's question http://www.gatorzone.com/football/media/2010/pdf/135-200.pdf Spurrier years begin on p. 162 On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, John Vega wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: > > We were "on the cusp" of greatness

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2010-11-11 Thread John Vega
On Nov 11, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: We were "on the cusp" of greatness many time before Spurrier got here. We had no "official" titles, but it wasn't like he walked into a program that perennially had losing seasons, or one that couldn't or didn't recruit a lot of great pla

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2010-11-11 Thread Jay Cicone
Aw...come on Charlie. Spit it out, if you can ménage it. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:31 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatornews from the Palm Beach Pos

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2010-11-11 Thread Charlie
I've got a pretty good nickname for it but this is a family list. Charlie _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:50 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Gatorne

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2010-11-11 Thread Helen Huntley
Since I have been going to Gator games almost as long as Leon, I know that we had some good years before Spurrier, but we didn't have a winning tradition. Spurrier put Georgia in its place and really gave the team and fans the confidence that they could not only beat Georgia, but could beat Auburn

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2010-11-11 Thread Woody
Thank you for saying that Steve. I hate it when people try to tell me that Florida was "nothin till Spurrier got there" On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: > We were "on the cusp" of greatness many time before Spurrier got here. > We had no "official" titles, but it wasn

[gatortalk] Pick 'Em is ready

2010-11-11 Thread John Bowers
Sorry, peeps, half the Pick 'Em duo was in California for a few days, so we're a little tardy, but Pick 'Em is ready to go. http://pickem.g8r.com Beat the Chickens. John -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National B

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2010-11-11 Thread Steve McKibben
We were "on the cusp" of greatness many time before Spurrier got here. We had no "official" titles, but it wasn't like he walked into a program that perennially had losing seasons, or one that couldn't or didn't recruit a lot of great players. How many national championships did SOS win without

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2010-11-11 Thread Helen Huntley
I still give the edge to Spurrier, who created a winning tradition. Meyer just had to revive it after our unfortunate Zook interlude. I want to see Meyer win a national championship without Tim Tebow before I hand him the title. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:15 PM, wrote: > Interesting poll questi

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2010-11-11 Thread oliver
Interesting poll question today: Who will go down as the greatest football coach in Gator history? Steve Spurrier Urban Meyer Right now, with 900 votes, it's Meyer 64%, Spurrier 36%. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 Natio

RE: [gatortalk] Where's Pick-Em??

2010-11-11 Thread Jerry Belloit
John, It shows it is not yet ready. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bowers Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:51 AM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Where's Pick-Em?? I think Oz opened it last nigh

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2010-11-11 Thread Oliver Barry
Ok, picking on the poor little high school and blah blah blah. But, this logo is UGLY!! I say fine 'em for being ugly!!! Crystal Lake South HS Crystal Lake South HS Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallati

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2010-11-11 Thread Oliver Barry
Give the guy a break, Zeb!! Geez!! He's a minister. I'm sure he was only thinking of how he could help the widows and orphans at his church with that $180,000! Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks Realty 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 Phone: 615-826-4040 Fax: 615

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2010-11-11 Thread John Vega
On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:47 AM, John Vega wrote: Anyway, it's nickname time. Let's hear what you got. I'm not crazy about my idea, but I'll throw it out anyway: The 75 Cent Offense. Hmm. At Florida "6-Bit" seems more apropos. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996

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2010-11-11 Thread John Vega
On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:58 AM, Juno Gator wrote: Contest: Come up with a nickname for the Gators' 3-QB offense Anyway, it's nickname time. Let's hear what you got. I'm not crazy about my idea, but I'll throw it out anyway: The 75 Cent Offense.A few seasons ago, Urban Meyer was pressed for a

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2010-11-11 Thread John Vega
Two of the quotes below bothered me. The one from Cam reeked of entitlement - not that the claims were true or false, but "I don't have to answer that question, I am Cam the mighty Heisman hopeful." Well, one thing that got him into the Heisman race was his father's claims that he left Flor

RE: [gatortalk] Where's Pick-Em??

2010-11-11 Thread John Bowers
I think Oz opened it last night. Try it and see. John From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wanda Barry Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Where's Pick-Em?? Ok, after posting a disgus

[gatortalk] Where's Pick-Em??

2010-11-11 Thread Wanda Barry
Ok, after posting a disgusting 3-9 last week, I actually want to play this stupid game again - LOL! Can't miss a week of pickin Wanda -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football