Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
But GPL3 has been a good license for GCC; giving up the theoretical ability to change the license (other than to a later GPL) does not seem like a significant loss. That will cause trouble incorperating code or documentation snippets from the code base into the GCC manual; which is not

Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
> What is the rationale after these changes anyway? Development of new features for libstdc++ has already moved away from gcc.gnu.org to avoid the copyright assignment. Other contributors have expressed a desire to do the same. >From the GCC mission statement: - Other components

Re: Update to GCC copyright assignment policy

2021-06-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
GCC was created as part of the GNU Project but has grown to operate as an autonomous project. That is true for all GNU project. The GCC Steering Committee has decided to relax the requirement to assign copyright for all changes to the Free Software Foundation. GCC will continue

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-11 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
It should remain an acronym, but it should now stand for "GCC Compiler Collection". That allows the project to be disassociated from the GNU name while still subtly acknowledging its heritage. Then it would not longer be GCC. It would be something different. The whole point of GCC is

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-10 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
Please move these off-topic discussions somewhere else, people are already annoyed and angry as it is -- on both sides!

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-09 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
These discussions are slightly off topic for gcc@, I'd suggest they are moved to gnu-misc-discuss@ or some other more suitable list. To me GNU is people wanting to create a software system that respects users freedom according to the GNU Social Contract:

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
"We've always done it this way" is not necessarily a good defence of an existing practice. That wasn't the claim, it is how we do it currently, and have been doing for decades though. If you have concrete suggestions, please send them to the GNU Advisory Committee. >    The GNU

Re: GCC association with the FSF

2021-04-07 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
[...] That "gnu-stucture" document was written by RMS a couple of months ago and doesn't represent how the GNU project and its maintainers have worked for years. It reflects the same message that has been sent to new GNU maintainers for the decades. The GNU structure and organization

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-31 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
I ("new moderator") won't recount what happened, it is neither here, or there, but Mark is presenting a very biased view of what occured, and also one of the reasons why he no longer is a moderator. The claims about doxxing, etc, are entierly untrue and unfounded.

Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee

2021-03-30 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via Gcc
A good reason why Richard should be on the SC is to that he does demonstrates the values of the GNU project, that of the free software movement and the FSF. GCC is a important project, and having the head of the GNU project involved -- even if mostly uninvolved in daily topics, is a ultimately a