Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-26 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, David Edelsohn wrote: Andrew Your attitude towards Joern's request for help with a regression was really Andrew what got my over the board. Your suggestion that a primary target was more Andrew important even for an enhancement matter than over a regression was really

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-26 Thread David Edelsohn
Gerald Pfeifer writes: Gerald For the record, I reviewed both the Mission Statement and the GCC 4.1 Gerald release criteria. Neither is really applicable. My comment said my understanding. You interpret them differently. Neither of us is representing the entire GCC SC in either

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-26 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Feb 26, 2006, at 4:40 PM, David Edelsohn wrote: Gerald Pfeifer writes: Gerald For the record, I reviewed both the Mission Statement and the GCC 4.1 Gerald release criteria. Neither is really applicable. My comment said my understanding. You interpret them differently.

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Keating
Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the PowerPC GNU/Linux community seems to want this feature very badly, and has suggested that failure to incorporate these patches in GCC 4.1 would be very bad. My feeling is that it is the PowerPC community which will be harmed if they get

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Mitchell
Geoffrey Keating wrote: Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, the PowerPC GNU/Linux community seems to want this feature very badly, and has suggested that failure to incorporate these patches in GCC 4.1 would be very bad. My feeling is that it is the PowerPC community which will

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Giovanni Bajo
Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I've indicated before, I'm not pleased with this situation either. It was as much a surprise to me as anyone. There is no question that this change is not in keeping with our branch policy. [...] Also, at the time these changes were suggested for

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Ulrich Weigand
Gerald Pfeiffer wrote: Personally, and explicitly not speaking for my employer, I fully agree with Andrew Pinski that this kind of change is not appropriate for GCC 4.1 at this point in the release cycle. It is clearly against our development model and negatively impacts our schedule and

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread David Edelsohn
Giovanni Bajo writes: Giovanni This is a little unfair, though. So now the burden on enforcing the policy is Giovanni not on the maintainers that prepare the patches? The people involved in this Giovanni change have been working on GCC much longer than those who (later) objected. Giovanni

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Mitchell
Giovanni Bajo wrote: This is a little unfair, though. So now the burden on enforcing the policy is not on the maintainers that prepare the patches? No, that burden falls on the Release Manager. However, the SC has also given me considerable latitude to exercise my judgement, which I did. I

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Andrew Pinski
Giovanni Bajo writes: Giovanni This is a little unfair, though. So now the burden on enforcing the policy is Giovanni not on the maintainers that prepare the patches? The people involved in this Giovanni change have been working on GCC much longer than those who (later) objected.

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread Mark Mitchell
Mark Mitchell wrote: it misses the point that many important resources in GCC are being used in fixing and testing this new feature, instead of putting GCC in shape for the release. So the release has been already delayed because of this, and will be even more. That's something which already

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-06 Thread David Edelsohn
Andrew Pinski writes: Andrew Your attitude towards Joern's request for help with a regression was really Andrew what got my over the board. Your suggestion that a primary target was more Andrew important even for an enhancement matter than over a regression was really Andrew out of line.

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-05 Thread Mark Mitchell
Joe Buck wrote: I agree that the matter should have been raised far earlier, and that glibc decisions of this kind should be coordinated with gcc, and in this case the issue should have been discussed far earlier. Yes, I completely agree. In fact, I think everyone agrees; Roland has

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-04 Thread Gerald Pfeifer
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Ulrich Weigand wrote: This is OK for mainline and 4.1. Please cite PR target/25864 in the ChangeLog entry. Personally, and explicitly not speaking for my employer, I fully agree with Andrew Pinski that this kind of change is not appropriate for GCC 4.1 at this point in the

Re: [PATCH, RFC] Enable IBM long double for PPC32 Linux

2006-02-04 Thread Joe Buck
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 09:12:54PM +0100, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: Personally, and explicitly not speaking for my employer, I fully agree with Andrew Pinski that this kind of change is not appropriate for GCC 4.1 at this point in the release cycle. I don't like it either, but what's the