Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-07 Thread Joseph S. Myers
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Paolo Bonzini wrote: The Compilation Process transforms code entirely represented in non-intermediate languages designed for human-written code, and/or in Java Virtual Machine byte code, into Target Code. Two months for this??? And what about CLR (Mono, .NET)

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-03 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [...] Earlier Bradley Kuhn had indicated that this would be covered in the updated FAQ, but I don't really see it there. I sent him a separate message asking him to update it. Joe Buck wrote: [...] Since the FSF is the copyright owner, even if your reading is

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-03 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
f...@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) writes: Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [...] Earlier Bradley Kuhn had indicated that this would be covered in the updated FAQ, but I don't really see it there. I sent him a separate message asking him to update it. Joe Buck wrote: [...] Since the FSF is the

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-03 Thread Joe Buck
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 12:33:59PM -0700, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Ian Lance Taylor wrote: [...] Earlier Bradley Kuhn had indicated that this would be covered in the updated FAQ, but I don't really see it there. I sent him a separate message asking him to update it. Joe Buck wrote:

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Koning
Frank == Frank Ch Eigler f...@redhat.com writes: [...] Since the FSF is the copyright owner, even if your reading is held by someone to be correct, then the FSF's FAQ would count as an additional permission. [...] Frank Is anyone else uncomfortable that an important license is to Frank

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-02 Thread Paolo Bonzini
The Compilation Process transforms code entirely represented in non-intermediate languages designed for human-written code, and/or in Java Virtual Machine byte code, into Target Code. Two months for this??? And what about CLR (Mono, .NET) bytecode for example??? Paolo

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread Joern Rennecke
Is that an April fool's joke? The new license allows Java, but it does not allow linking with code that has no dependency on the Runtime Library whatsoever (because it is not considered 'Independent Modules'), and it does not allow linking with code that has been written in assembly language (it

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread Richard Guenther
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Joern Rennecke joe...@arc.com wrote: Is that an April fool's joke? The new license allows Java, but it does not allow linking with code that has no dependency on the Runtime Library whatsoever (because it is not considered 'Independent Modules'), and it does

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread Joern Rennecke
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:30:25PM +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Joern Rennecke joe...@arc.com wrote: Is that an April fool's joke? The new license allows Java, but it does not allow linking with code that has no dependency on the Runtime Library

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread Andrew Haley
Richard Guenther wrote: What I do find strange is the restriction to explicitly Java VM bytecode (not CIL or others). I think I understand that one. Way back in time, when gcj was contributed by Cygnus, the FSF had to be convinced that Java VM bytecode couldn't be used to allow, e.g., an

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread David Edelsohn
Joern, The FSF and SFLC believes that your concerns best can be addressed in the FAQ. David On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Joern Rennecke joe...@arc.com wrote: Is that an April fool's joke? The new license allows Java, but it does not allow linking with code that has no dependency on the

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Joern Rennecke joe...@arc.com writes: On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:30:25PM +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Joern Rennecke joe...@arc.com wrote: Is that an April fool's joke? The new license allows Java, but it does not allow linking with code that has no

Re: Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-04-01 Thread Joe Buck
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:48:17AM -0700, Joern Rennecke wrote: Say you have module A, B, C and D. A is the main program and uses B, C and D. B uses the runtime library, and is therefore an independent module. Thus, you are allowed to link B with the runtime library. An argument could be

Revised GCC Runtime Library Exception

2009-03-31 Thread David Edelsohn
The revised GCC Runtime Library Exception now is published on the FSF website: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gcc-exception.html The FSF carefully considered the comments and concerns of the community about the terminology and hopes that this new text clarifies the permissions in conjunction