gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Ed S. Peschko
All, I'm curious what is to happen with gcc when the gpl version 3 is done. Will new versions of gcc be automatically changed to use the new license, or will gcc stay at 2, will there be discussion about any such change? My concern - and I'm sure I'm not the only one so concerned

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Andrew Pinski
All, So, again, Is gcc planning on automatically moving to gpl version 3, staying at gpl version 2, or having a protracted discussion? What happens if some developers decide they want to stay at 2 and others decide they want to go with 3? We (developers/SC) don't have control over this,

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Mike Stump
On Nov 15, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Ed S. Peschko wrote: My concern - and I'm sure I'm not the only one so concerned - is that if gcc goes to version 3, linux distribution maintainers will not choose to go with the new version, or worse, some groups will choose to remain at gpl2 and others will go

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Ed S. Peschko
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 02:14:00PM -0500, Andrew Pinski wrote: All, So, again, Is gcc planning on automatically moving to gpl version 3, staying at gpl version 2, or having a protracted discussion? What happens if some developers decide they want to stay at 2 and others decide

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Ed S. Peschko
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 02:14:00PM -0500, Andrew Pinski wrote: All, So, again, Is gcc planning on automatically moving to gpl version 3, staying at gpl version 2, or having a protracted discussion? What happens if some developers decide they want to stay at 2 and others decide they

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Richard Kenner
So I gather that the FSF has some sort of property-rights transfer document that developers sign in order to make their patches FSF property? Correct. Also, I'm assuming that licenses are not able to be grand-fathered to old versions, so I'm assuming gcc's pre-gpl3 will always remain at

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Ed S. Peschko
I'm sorry, but IMO this GPL change seems just a disaster waiting to happen. Unless GPL3 is non-controversial (which it sounds like it is not) it'll tear both your development team and your user community in half, as well as probably get rid of a large part of your corporate funding. Does

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Richard Kenner
And in any case, why should it be off-topic? I would think that the possibility of your project being divided in two would be of great concern to you guys, and that you'd have every single motivation to convey any sort of apprehension that you might have about such a split to the group that

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Janis Johnson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 01:55:05PM -0800, Ed S. Peschko wrote: On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 02:14:00PM -0500, Andrew Pinski wrote: All, So, again, Is gcc planning on automatically moving to gpl version 3, staying at gpl version 2, or having a protracted discussion? What happens

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread DJ Delorie
Ed S. Peschko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And in any case, why should it be off-topic? Regardless of how much it affects, us, it's off-topic *by definition* in *this forum*. This isn't the right place to discuss such topics because that's the way we want it to be.

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Ed S. Peschko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And in any case, why should it be off-topic? I would think that the possibility of your project being divided in two would be of great concern to you guys, and that you'd have every single motivation to convey any sort of apprehension that you might

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Brooks Moses
Ed S. Peschko wrote: And in any case, why should it be off-topic? I would think that the possibility of your project being divided in two would be of great concern to you guys, and that you'd have every single motivation to convey any sort of apprehension that you might have about such a split

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Ed S. Peschko
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 07:35:39PM -0800, Brooks Moses wrote: Ed S. Peschko wrote: And in any case, why should it be off-topic? I would think that the possibility of your project being divided in two would be of great concern to you guys, and that you'd have every single motivation to

Re: gpl version 3 and gcc

2006-11-15 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Fine.. as I said, what's a reasonable forum to discuss this on? gnu.misc.discuss just doesn't cut it.. gnu-misc-discuss@ is the proper place, just ignore Terekhov.