proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-06 Thread Paolo Bonzini
The current system for managing bugzilla priorities has a major problem, in that it does not identify bugs that reasonably cannot be fixed before the release. The current set of priorities is in practice like this: - P1: most wrong code bugs, and other absolutely blocking problems - P2: problems

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-06 Thread NightStrike
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > The current system for managing bugzilla priorities has a major problem, > in that it does not identify bugs that reasonably cannot be fixed before > the release. > > The current set of priorities is in practice like this: > > - P1: most wron

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-06 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Disadvantages: the milestone field is not visible in search lists (maybe > this can be changed)? This issue of the search list has come up so many times. You can change the search list display with different fields. I usually add "last modi

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-08 Thread Richard Guenther
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > The current system for managing bugzilla priorities has a major problem, > in that it does not identify bugs that reasonably cannot be fixed before > the release. > > The current set of priorities is in practice like this: > > - P1: most wrong

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-09 Thread Paolo Bonzini
>> - The more conservative one is to use more aggressively the release >> milestone field. Hard-to-fix bugs would be left as P2, but bumped to >> the next major release at the beginning of stage 3. >> >> Advantages: no need for churn in the bug database---very easy to implement >> Disadvantages:

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-11 Thread Mark Mitchell
Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> I think the only reasonable release criteria is zero P1 regressions over >> some period. 50 P2 regressions doesn't make a release blocker, neither >> is 49 P2 regressions a clear sign for a non-blocked release. > > I agree. I mostly agree. P1 regressions are, by definit

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-12 Thread Richard Guenther
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Mark Mitchell wrote: > Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >>> I think the only reasonable release criteria is zero P1 regressions over >>> some period. 50 P2 regressions doesn't make a release blocker, neither >>> is 49 P2 regressions a clear sign for a non-blocked release. >

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Mitchell
Richard Guenther wrote: >> However, I don't agree that P2 regressions aren't a factor. If we have >> a ton of crashing on wrong-code, etc., regressions that adds up to a >> release that won't work well for people. > > In which case the important ones should be P1 ... No, that misses the point.

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-12 Thread Paolo Bonzini
>>> However, I don't agree that P2 regressions aren't a factor. If we have >>> a ton of crashing on wrong-code, etc., regressions that adds up to a >>> release that won't work well for people. >> >> In which case the important ones should be P1 ... > > No, that misses the point. A mass of bugs, e

Re: proposal for improved management bugzilla priorities/release criteria

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Mitchell
Paolo Bonzini wrote: > Still, I would like to hear an opinion on what to do with regard to > long standing bugs that are clearly not going to be fixed in stage3/4. > This was the main point of my message. I don't see any need to do anything different; I think we're all capable of distinguishing