Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-04-01 Thread Bill Schmidt
Thanks to all for the helpful explanations. We plan to leave things as they are. I hope someday we can make some time to do some basic investigations here. Bill On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 00:09 -0500, Aldy Hernandez wrote: > Richard Biener writes: > > > Hell, even

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-31 Thread Aldy Hernandez
Richard Biener writes: > Hell, even slapping a xfail powerpc*-*-* on all current ppc FAILs > would be better > than simply disabling all of guality for ppc. FWIW, I agree. While working on the debug early project, I found at least two legitimate bugs affecting all

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-30 Thread Richard Biener
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:01:20PM -0500, Bill Schmidt wrote: >> Again, this is good information to know about. But the "stuff" we were >> talking about was the failures on powerpc*, and I took what you said to >> mean

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread H.J. Lu
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:34:17AM -0700, Mike Stump wrote: >> On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:45 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: >> > We have no plans to make code generation a slave to the testsuite. >> > The

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:34:17AM -0700, Mike Stump wrote: > On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:45 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: > > We have no plans to make code generation a slave to the testsuite. > > The testsuite is a tool, successful results from the testsuite is not > > a goal unto

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Stump
On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:45 AM, David Edelsohn wrote: > We have no plans to make code generation a slave to the testsuite. > The testsuite is a tool, successful results from the testsuite is not > a goal unto itself. > > This patch is okay. We look forward to the day when

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:01:20PM -0500, Bill Schmidt wrote: > Again, this is good information to know about. But the "stuff" we were > talking about was the failures on powerpc*, and I took what you said to > mean that nobody was working on those. It sounds like you're saying > that the

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Bill Schmidt
Hi Jakub, Thanks for the information; I really do appreciate it! On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 17:33 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 08:19:39AM -0500, Bill Schmidt wrote: > > When you say that "the debug info quality is already pretty bad on > > powerpc*," do you mean that it is

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Biener
On March 29, 2016 4:45:44 PM GMT+02:00, David Edelsohn wrote: >On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Bill Schmidt > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> For a long time we've had hundreds of failing guality tests. These >> failures don't seem to have any correlation

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread David Edelsohn
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Bill Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > For a long time we've had hundreds of failing guality tests. These > failures don't seem to have any correlation with gdb functionality for > POWER, which is working fine. At this point the value of

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Richard Biener
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Bill Schmidt wrote: > Hi Jakub, > > On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 08:53 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 07:38:46PM -0500, Bill Schmidt wrote: >> > For a long time we've had hundreds of failing guality tests. These >> >

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Bill Schmidt
Hi Jakub, On Tue, 2016-03-29 at 08:53 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 07:38:46PM -0500, Bill Schmidt wrote: > > For a long time we've had hundreds of failing guality tests. These > > failures don't seem to have any correlation with gdb functionality for > > POWER, which is

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jakub Jelinek writes: > For guality, the most effective test for regressions is simply always > running contrib/test_summary after all your bootstraps and then just > diffing up that against the same from earlier bootstrap. Or use contrib/compare_tests. Andreas. -- Andreas

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-29 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 07:38:46PM -0500, Bill Schmidt wrote: > For a long time we've had hundreds of failing guality tests. These > failures don't seem to have any correlation with gdb functionality for > POWER, which is working fine. At this point the value of these tests to > us seems

Re: [PATCH] Disable guality tests for powerpc*-linux*

2016-03-28 Thread Mike Stump
On Mar 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Bill Schmidt wrote: > For a long time we've had hundreds of failing guality tests. These > failures don't seem to have any correlation with gdb functionality for > POWER, which is working fine. > Verified to remove hundreds of failure